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"It's too dark to tell most of the time. That's always the best part not knowing who's on the other side. " Darkness is all very well, but I'm concerned about the prospect of some homophobic guy on the other end realising those aren't women's hands and going mental lol. | |||
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"It's too dark to tell most of the time. That's always the best part not knowing who's on the other side. "   | |||
"It's too dark to tell most of the time. That's always the best part not knowing who's on the other side. Darkness is all very well, but I'm concerned about the prospect of some homophobic guy on the other end realising those aren't women's hands and going mental lol. " Perhaps in the moment all prejudices disappear,after he has cum is the time to worry about  | |||
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"It's too dark to tell most of the time. That's always the best part not knowing who's on the other side. Darkness is all very well, but I'm concerned about the prospect of some homophobic guy on the other end realising those aren't women's hands and going mental lol. " If that’s the case he will be quickly ejected and banned from most clubs | |||
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"It's too dark to tell most of the time. That's always the best part not knowing who's on the other side. Darkness is all very well, but I'm concerned about the prospect of some homophobic guy on the other end realising those aren't women's hands and going mental lol. " It’s easy to tell; women have cold hands, men have warm hands | |||
"Homophobic guys concerned about who's on the other side best not go in there" Some men like idea of it being anonymous, just with a woman. Does not make them homophobic but "straight". I don't know why gay men seem to think they have the monopoly over who uses gloryholes? What probably does lead to homophobia, is some of the gay men here (and I have seen it), masquerading as women or couples. Some of the more "thuggish" members might be inclined to take out their natural frustrations of violence on un-deserving members of the gay community. | |||
" Some men like idea of it being anonymous, just with a woman. Does not make them homophobic but "straight". " Hence the original question. As bi male play on a regular couples night seems a bit taboo, the use of glory holes seems a grey area and I was just wondering whether anyone more experienced could clarify the 'rules'. Chameleons Darlaston and Xtasia are the clubs we go to btw. | |||
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I've been in the situation many times, when a straight couple wanted to play with additional men by keeping a sort of safe distance and keeping all the control above the party. A glory hole, where we men are restricted to receiving IF the giver wants to play with us is a great option for that which makes it exciting both for straight (and picky) men and straight couples.
I think, (unless the event is promoted as a bi night) couples on the giving side should always ask the receiver if they are happy with the swop or not, and should not try to use it as a trick to bring anyone into a situation that they would not feel comfortable anyway.
Even you can't see you can hear each other across the wall, and a simple question is not too much to ask - in my opinion.
Just as in any other threesome scenario. Some guys like to have some bi play too, but then they always ask it before politely. I've been there, been asked about it upfront multiple times. I always said a polite no, thanks, and it was never an issue. Happened that the couple told me that then we are not for each other, which is not a problem, another time we still went forward, but they fully respected my preference - just as I do too with couples who (let's say) don't like the outsider man kissing the girl.
I don't see why should anyone bring up homophobia in this matter it's quite ridiculous, tbh. | |||
"Answering a few of the comments above, yes I am straight and yes I am picky, which means I do not want to have my dick wanked/sucked by another man, neither I feel that as soon as I enter a swinger club I should happily accept all offers from any women regardless of their look and/or if they attract me or not. But it does not make me homophobic or some sort of terrible snobbish person, and if anyone thinks it does, that guy/girl should have looked at their own mental issues first... And still, I have every right to use gloryholes, but I will only do it, if I know exactly, who is on the other side. (Okay, if there are 4 girls only on the other side who all attract me, then it doesn't matter but its an unlikely scenario... )
I've been in the situation many times, when a straight couple wanted to play with additional men by keeping a sort of safe distance and keeping all the control above the party. A glory hole, where we men are restricted to receiving IF the giver wants to play with us is a great option for that which makes it exciting both for straight (and picky) men and straight couples.
I think, (unless the event is promoted as a bi night) couples on the giving side should always ask the receiver if they are happy with the swop or not, and should not try to use it as a trick to bring anyone into a situation that they would not feel comfortable anyway.
Even you can't see you can hear each other across the wall, and a simple question is not too much to ask - in my opinion.
Just as in any other threesome scenario. Some guys like to have some bi play too, but then they always ask it before politely. I've been there, been asked about it upfront multiple times. I always said a polite no, thanks, and it was never an issue. Happened that the couple told me that then we are not for each other, which is not a problem, another time we still went forward, but they fully respected my preference - just as I do too with couples who (let's say) don't like the outsider man kissing the girl.
I don't see why should anyone bring up homophobia in this matter it's quite ridiculous, tbh."I think some gay men take a perverse pleasure in blowing a straight man thru a gloryhole, on the premise "he won't know". Some see it as some sort of challenge. In a way its almost consensual. unless vetted on the night as a "straight" evening. Doubtless to say though, it probably leads to an element of homophobia when some men find out it was another man. | |||
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"I think some gay men take a perverse pleasure in blowing a straight man thru a gloryhole, on the premise "he won't know". Some see it as some sort of challenge. In a way its almost consensual. unless vetted on the night as a "straight" evening. Doubtless to say though, it probably leads to an element of homophobia when some men find out it was another man." That is a pervert move for sure if they do it without the consent of the other man, tricking him with the glory hole... I would assume all nights are vetted as "straight" in default, unless they being promoted as other? Do you think that "challenges" like that are any better if I was "change the entrance" by a sudden idea and push my cock into the ass of a girl without agreeing on it upfront? Or pretending to have soft foreplay then shoot a full load in her face/mouth, also without asking if that's okay to do? If I was tried that (which I won't ever, as I know the etiquette), that would rightly turn her and her partner physichal against me, at least, I guess... If a man goes mad finding out that he was tricked and sucked by another man in a straight event that is not homophobia, that's normal behaviour from a person who requires the basic respect - as not only females are entitled for that... | |||
"Well, if there's a couple in the cubicle sucking you off you can be 99% sure the man will be better at it. If a straight guy comes out saying it's the best blow job he's ever had.. It will have been a guy sucking him off for certain. Ive been sucked off by hundreds of men and women and although many women have been very good it's been gay men who have excelled by miles. " Well, good luck to you, mate, I'm glad if you have a good time, but being confident that I'm the best-performing sex machine in the entire UK doesn't make me entitled for giving free trials to random girls without their consent, even if we meet at a swinger party, don't you agree? Gay, or bisexual sex is still outside of the "mainstream" and (unless if it's a dedicated event for that) you should think about it similarly like BDSM, anal, etc and make sure that other side is happy with it too. Because (as long as I know) these clubs are for having mutual fun, based on mutual respect, not for tricking each others into situations that otherwise would never be agreed... | |||
"Well, if there's a couple in the cubicle sucking you off you can be 99% sure the man will be better at it. If a straight guy comes out saying it's the best blow job he's ever had.. It will have been a guy sucking him off for certain. Ive been sucked off by hundreds of men and women and although many women have been very good it's been gay men who have excelled by miles. " That's you though. Most straight men, if they found out, would be repulsed by the idea. If they are not, then they are probably not straight in the first place. Some gay men really seem to have a problem understanding that some men, know what they want and are simply not interested or want to be involved and this isn't respected. This is never something I have encountered with bisexual or gay women. | |||
"I think some gay men take a perverse pleasure in blowing a straight man thru a gloryhole, on the premise "he won't know". Some see it as some sort of challenge. In a way its almost consensual. unless vetted on the night as a "straight" evening. Doubtless to say though, it probably leads to an element of homophobia when some men find out it was another man. That is a pervert move for sure if they do it without the consent of the other man, tricking him with the glory hole... I would assume all nights are vetted as "straight" in default, unless they being promoted as other? Do you think that "challenges" like that are any better if I was "change the entrance" by a sudden idea and push my cock into the ass of a girl without agreeing on it upfront? Or pretending to have soft foreplay then shoot a full load in her face/mouth, also without asking if that's okay to do? If I was tried that (which I won't ever, as I know the etiquette), that would rightly turn her and her partner physichal against me, at least, I guess... If a man goes mad finding out that he was tricked and sucked by another man in a straight event that is not homophobia, that's normal behaviour from a person who requires the basic respect - as not only females are entitled for that... "It's 2021, swinging is mainstream, watered down and the civilised "rules" have gone. Its a nest of time wasters, fantasists and narcissists. 20 years ago, it was more open minded and more underground. When Ken and Barbie decided to jump on it, it turned into a shallow, seedy, Love Island Porno. | |||
"It's 2021, swinging is mainstream, watered down and the civilised "rules" have gone. Its a nest of time wasters, fantasists and narcissists. 20 years ago, it was more open minded and more underground. When Ken and Barbie decided to jump on it, it turned into a shallow, seedy, Love Island Porno." Sadly I must agree with you that there are some folks there who know very little about civilised standards and etiquette... I've seen some shocking stuff myself, mostly from single guys - saying it as a single guy. But I definitely can't agree with the "Ken and Barbie" part. I respect that you probably have much more experience in this field, as I do it only for 6-7 years, so have no idea how was it 20 years ago. However, if being "open minded" means being happy to have sex with people I don't find attractive, just because we both "in the lifestyle" and probably they are very nice folks in general, well, then I will take it, I am not open-minded enough. I am genuinely interested in your opinion, why do you think that shallow if someone only want to have sex with those they find physically attractive? Bearing in mind that beauty is a very subjective matter and different people will find very different things attractive. | |||
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"Interesting and very strong views in this thread. Isn't the whole point about a glory hole is that you stick your cock in anonymously and receive some anonymous attention? If you want to know who is sucking your cock I would have thought you wouldn't/shouldn't be using a glory hole." I think the point of the entire club is that everything is fine as long as all participating people agree and enjoy that. Doing little tricks when it's presumingly against the others will is not okay, in my opinion. I think similarly about those guys who use the dark rooms as "free for all hunting field", however, I do not use them, for the same reason - male/male stuff is really unavoidable there, and it's simply not for me. But re gloryholes, as I said above I've played with straight couples many time in gloryhole, and they enjoyed having full control above the situation - I could only passively enjoy when/if she wanted to touch me. That is an exciting and fun scenario for all, but as we were at a straight event it's clear that I'm not there to receive a blowjob from a man. However, in the clubs that I visit, luckily the whole is big enough (or my dick is not big enough, haha) that if I want, I can always see the hand or the mouth that plays with me, so would not be easy to trick me. But I don't know about other clubs. | |||
"It's 2021, swinging is mainstream, watered down and the civilised "rules" have gone. Its a nest of time wasters, fantasists and narcissists. 20 years ago, it was more open minded and more underground. When Ken and Barbie decided to jump on it, it turned into a shallow, seedy, Love Island Porno. Sadly I must agree with you that there are some folks there who know very little about civilised standards and etiquette... I've seen some shocking stuff myself, mostly from single guys - saying it as a single guy. But I definitely can't agree with the "Ken and Barbie" part. I respect that you probably have much more experience in this field, as I do it only for 6-7 years, so have no idea how was it 20 years ago. However, if being "open minded" means being happy to have sex with people I don't find attractive, just because we both "in the lifestyle" and probably they are very nice folks in general, well, then I will take it, I am not open-minded enough. I am genuinely interested in your opinion, why do you think that shallow if someone only want to have sex with those they find physically attractive? Bearing in mind that beauty is a very subjective matter and different people will find very different things attractive." People were more open minded and less picky. None of this "gym fit" crap, most people didn't go to gyms back then. | |||
"Interesting and very strong views in this thread. Isn't the whole point about a glory hole is that you stick your cock in anonymously and receive some anonymous attention? If you want to know who is sucking your cock I would have thought you wouldn't/shouldn't be using a glory hole. I think the point of the entire club is that everything is fine as long as all participating people agree and enjoy that. Doing little tricks when it's presumingly against the others will is not okay, in my opinion. I think similarly about those guys who use the dark rooms as "free for all hunting field", however, I do not use them, for the same reason - male/male stuff is really unavoidable there, and it's simply not for me. But re gloryholes, as I said above I've played with straight couples many time in gloryhole, and they enjoyed having full control above the situation - I could only passively enjoy when/if she wanted to touch me. That is an exciting and fun scenario for all, but as we were at a straight event it's clear that I'm not there to receive a blowjob from a man. However, in the clubs that I visit, luckily the whole is big enough (or my dick is not big enough, haha) that if I want, I can always see the hand or the mouth that plays with me, so would not be easy to trick me. But I don't know about other clubs." Most holes I have seen are so large, its almost pointless as you can see them. | |||
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"Whilst I agree about the need for consent etc. I feel that a guy who inserts his penis into a gloryhole, for an anonymous blowjob is consenting to an anonymous blowjob. Isn't that the point? Knowing who is on the other side seems to make the whole thing weird" That is the beauty of it that is great for multiple reasons. Some couple like to use it simply to get full control and keep the other men totally passive. If there is no wall between us, I could hardly stop my hand wondering around the girls body, I can turn into "dominant" and lead her how to do the blowjob even unintentionally, but if we are in the gloryhole, I can only wait and hope if/when she wants to play with me. It's interesting for both sides, but doesn't mean I would be up for any bi/gay play and unless if its a particular event for that, this should be considered as default. IMO... | |||
"People were more open minded and less picky. None of this "gym fit" crap, most people didn't go to gyms back then." It's offtopic here but I don't think that "people didn't go to gyms back then" was a good thing, so I rather glad if this changed.
And not only for attractiveness but for general health too.
And sorry, but even if I agree with you a lot from your other comments, your last two comments that mentioned "picky, gym-fit crap, Barbie and Ken, Love Island porn" etc shows some fury against people with athletic bodies, which I can't understand how would be better than body-shaming comments against "fatties"?
You also judge people coz of their body type, isn't it the same?
Maybe even worse, as -maybe I'm wrong, but it come through of your comments that you have some antipathy against people with "gym-fit" bodies in general. While for example I (and many more) do not have any problem with heavily overweight people I'm happy to enjoy a chat with them in a pub, club, wherever, we can be best friends, I just simply don't want to have sex with them, as they don't attract me sexually, that's it. And still, I will be called a body-shamer if I tell the honest truth in a forum like this...
Trust me people with gym fit bodies also come with all kinds of personalities, some of them are twats some are cool, humble and friendly folks. I've met with girls who were Hollywood/Bollywood star level perfect beauties and still super cute, nice, smart and friendly people, also others who were anything but attractive and cocky twats on the top.
Let me tell you something, the truth is, that 9 people out of 10 would choose a sex partner who has a "love Island body" over someone heavily overweight, especially for casual sex like in clubs. The only question is, if they have the chance to do that or not? I can link you dozens (hundreds?) of heavily overweight women's profile from this page who ask for "gym-fit" only (not to mention inch requirements that match only the top 5-10% of population). But there is nothing wrong with it, here the ratio is something 20-1, so women can pick, enjoy. The same girls are much more humble on Tinder, I'm sure.
I don't want to tell you what to do, also, looking at your photos (the little they show) you can be a sexy girl, definitely not the heavily overweight one, you are also young, so I think you do not have any reason to be angry for the "love island people". However a little more sport is good not only for your body but for your health too.
PS: in your previous comment you said that since "Barbie and Ken decided to go clubbing, the scene has totally changed". I don't know, but there is a club (I won't name it) where I experienced the opposite. A couple of years ago I met there people of all size, and whenever I visited I could always "fall in love to someone, but on my last two visits I had a feeling (reflecting to your "Love Island Porn" comment) that I'm in a Wetherspoons on a naked day... | |||
"People were more open minded and less picky. None of this "gym fit" crap, most people didn't go to gyms back then. It's offtopic here but I don't think that "people didn't go to gyms back then" was a good thing, so I rather glad if this changed.
And not only for attractiveness but for general health too.
And sorry, but even if I agree with you a lot from your other comments, your last two comments that mentioned "picky, gym-fit crap, Barbie and Ken, Love Island porn" etc shows some fury against people with athletic bodies, which I can't understand how would be better than body-shaming comments against "fatties"?
You also judge people coz of their body type, isn't it the same?
Maybe even worse, as -maybe I'm wrong, but it come through of your comments that you have some antipathy against people with "gym-fit" bodies in general. While for example I (and many more) do not have any problem with heavily overweight people I'm happy to enjoy a chat with them in a pub, club, wherever, we can be best friends, I just simply don't want to have sex with them, as they don't attract me sexually, that's it. And still, I will be called a body-shamer if I tell the honest truth in a forum like this...
Trust me people with gym fit bodies also come with all kinds of personalities, some of them are twats some are cool, humble and friendly folks. I've met with girls who were Hollywood/Bollywood star level perfect beauties and still super cute, nice, smart and friendly people, also others who were anything but attractive and cocky twats on the top.
Let me tell you something, the truth is, that 9 people out of 10 would choose a sex partner who has a "love Island body" over someone heavily overweight, especially for casual sex like in clubs. The only question is, if they have the chance to do that or not? I can link you dozens (hundreds?) of heavily overweight women's profile from this page who ask for "gym-fit" only (not to mention inch requirements that match only the top 5-10% of population). But there is nothing wrong with it, here the ratio is something 20-1, so women can pick, enjoy. The same girls are much more humble on Tinder, I'm sure.
I don't want to tell you what to do, also, looking at your photos (the little they show) you can be a sexy girl, definitely not the heavily overweight one, you are also young, so I think you do not have any reason to be angry for the "love island people". However a little more sport is good not only for your body but for your health too.
PS: in your previous comment you said that since "Barbie and Ken decided to go clubbing, the scene has totally changed". I don't know, but there is a club (I won't name it) where I experienced the opposite. A couple of years ago I met there people of all size, and whenever I visited I could always "fall in love to someone, but on my last two visits I had a feeling (reflecting to your "Love Island Porn" comment) that I'm in a Wetherspoons on a naked day..."My comments are just general reflection of how more narcissistic and shallow society has become in the last decade. Swinging is trendy now, just like tattoos it was more taboo and more linked to the fetish scene. In my view as I get older it's just something else that was better that's declined. | |||
"People were more open minded and less picky. None of this "gym fit" crap, most people didn't go to gyms back then. It's offtopic here but I don't think that "people didn't go to gyms back then" was a good thing, so I rather glad if this changed.
And not only for attractiveness but for general health too.
And sorry, but even if I agree with you a lot from your other comments, your last two comments that mentioned "picky, gym-fit crap, Barbie and Ken, Love Island porn" etc shows some fury against people with athletic bodies, which I can't understand how would be better than body-shaming comments against "fatties"?
You also judge people coz of their body type, isn't it the same?
Maybe even worse, as -maybe I'm wrong, but it come through of your comments that you have some antipathy against people with "gym-fit" bodies in general. While for example I (and many more) do not have any problem with heavily overweight people I'm happy to enjoy a chat with them in a pub, club, wherever, we can be best friends, I just simply don't want to have sex with them, as they don't attract me sexually, that's it. And still, I will be called a body-shamer if I tell the honest truth in a forum like this...
Trust me people with gym fit bodies also come with all kinds of personalities, some of them are twats some are cool, humble and friendly folks. I've met with girls who were Hollywood/Bollywood star level perfect beauties and still super cute, nice, smart and friendly people, also others who were anything but attractive and cocky twats on the top.
Let me tell you something, the truth is, that 9 people out of 10 would choose a sex partner who has a "love Island body" over someone heavily overweight, especially for casual sex like in clubs. The only question is, if they have the chance to do that or not? I can link you dozens (hundreds?) of heavily overweight women's profile from this page who ask for "gym-fit" only (not to mention inch requirements that match only the top 5-10% of population). But there is nothing wrong with it, here the ratio is something 20-1, so women can pick, enjoy. The same girls are much more humble on Tinder, I'm sure.
I don't want to tell you what to do, also, looking at your photos (the little they show) you can be a sexy girl, definitely not the heavily overweight one, you are also young, so I think you do not have any reason to be angry for the "love island people". However a little more sport is good not only for your body but for your health too.
PS: in your previous comment you said that since "Barbie and Ken decided to go clubbing, the scene has totally changed". I don't know, but there is a club (I won't name it) where I experienced the opposite. A couple of years ago I met there people of all size, and whenever I visited I could always "fall in love to someone, but on my last two visits I had a feeling (reflecting to your "Love Island Porn" comment) that I'm in a Wetherspoons on a naked day..."Also dude you have way too much time on your hands to write that up. That's 20 mins of your life gone! | |||
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