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By *um4usboth OP Couple
over a year ago
Peterborough |
We experienced going out for the first time in 18 months. We believe that for safety reasons it would be good practice to put testing in place at clubs. All other venues that have numerous people attending have testing in place. We don’t want anything to spoil our lifestyle. Lateral flow tests are free for everyone and easy to get hold of and easy to use. Opinions welcome on this subject. |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
harrow |
I am mixed mindsets
I have done a number of lateral flows for events over the last month and don’t have a problem. However do people to sdt tests before clubs for example
Personally I hope people do if the are planning to go to a club do a test even for their own peice of mind |
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We feel the same, so looking forward to getting back to clubs but really would like lateral flow tests introduced - as you say easy free and take at home and register result on gov site, and you have proof on phone, simple !
As for std’s test, when actively playing we test every 3 months and a lot do. |
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And what is to stop somebody taking a test before going to a club, it showing positive but the person then registers it as negative? Surely the only way to prove it's negative is to see it actually being done...or am I missing something? |
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"And what is to stop somebody taking a test before going to a club, it showing positive but the person then registers it as negative? Surely the only way to prove it's negative is to see it actually being done...or am I missing something?"
Aah bugger……,me stupidly not taking into account the feckless idiots in this world that probably would do that.  |
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I do think it makes sense since this virus is so communicable, you might not be playing but could still catch it. Logistically though it would be tricky, take the test then go where for half an hour?
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"And what is to stop somebody taking a test before going to a club, it showing positive but the person then registers it as negative? Surely the only way to prove it's negative is to see it actually being done...or am I missing something?"
Just why |
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"I do think it makes sense since this virus is so communicable, you might not be playing but could still catch it. Logistically though it would be tricky, take the test then go where for half an hour?
Be interesting to see what individual clubs decide "
Next thing. We will have to take a test to go shopping. The cinema or pub |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally I’d be happy for test few days before and also offer NHS app proof of vaccination. It’s never going to be 100%, if you want that…don’t attend clubs! But all for making it safer. I’d also welcome STD checks As well. Could do random ones, press the buzzer and your selected for full check! Could include cavity check in that as well ;p
Seriously, the more safer given the ability to attend would be all the better.
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
harrow |
"We experienced going out for the first time in 18 months. We believe that for safety reasons it would be good practice to put testing in place at clubs. All other venues that have numerous people attending have testing in place. We don’t want anything to spoil our lifestyle. Lateral flow tests are free for everyone and easy to get hold of and easy to use. Opinions welcome on this subject."
Maybe stay at home? No one is forcing you to go to a club etc . I’m fully vaccinated and happy to show my NHS passport but hope clubs don’t go down that route and just leave it to individual choice - we are all adults |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think lateral flow test is great idea. Weather you have been jabbed,double jabbed or not been jabbed at all, it’s your choice. I don’t agree with if you haven’t t been jabbed or if you have to prove you are negative which cost £85 you won’t enter me the premises that’s wrong in my eyes. But everyone has different views on this and if you haven’t been jabbed you shouldn’t be made to feel you are a bad person or treated differently. The other thread on this got out of hand. But each to there own and the swinging world is not about judging people |
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" if you haven’t been jabbed you shouldn’t be made to feel you are a bad person or treated differently. "
Do you think people who choose not to be jabbed are selfish ? What would happen if we all chose to be unvaccinated ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Selfish no. More they have there own mind and won’t follow the trend. Everyone has the views on why they won’t be be jabbed and some people have views on why they won’t be jabbed. It’s not up to people on fab to judge or make people feel different and if you do then you need a good look at yourself. |
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Something to be aware of is that data from Porton Down showed that Lateral Flow Tests (Rapid Antigen) are 79% accurate when performed by trained lab techs, 73% when performed by trained medical staff BUT only 57% accurate when performed at home. Tests done in a real environment were even worse with only 40% achieved when done at home. Be more accurate to flip a coin. Little wonder that the USA's FDA have recalled all LFTs. Add to that you don't actually have to even perform the test in order to register a negative result, all you need is the bar code number for the NHS website. |
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"Something to be aware of is that data from Porton Down showed that Lateral Flow Tests (Rapid Antigen) are 79% accurate when performed by trained lab techs, 73% when performed by trained medical staff BUT only 57% accurate when performed at home. Tests done in a real environment were even worse with only 40% achieved when done at home. Be more accurate to flip a coin. Little wonder that the USA's FDA have recalled all LFTs. Add to that you don't actually have to even perform the test in order to register a negative result, all you need is the bar code number for the NHS website."
I view my (as best as I can) LFTs as an extra layer of protection. I'm jabbed, I'm trying to be careful, I don't feel sick, but I'll do it just in case. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Our opinion is we’ve waited this long, we can wait a bit longer.
With restrictions lifted cases are set to rise. We’re both double vaccinated but it doesn’t make us Teflon coated.
In Jersey where we spend part of our time restrictions were mostly lifted some while ago and cases have sky rocketed. The numbers are huge for such a small island, including a handful who have been double vaccinated.
Going to observe over the next three months or so and see what if any, the effects on club life are.
We have no objection to following whatever rules they may impose. It’s a minor price to pay to enjoy a good night out again and be amongst likeminded friends. |
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"Our opinion is we’ve waited this long, we can wait a bit longer.
With restrictions lifted cases are set to rise. We’re both double vaccinated but it doesn’t make us Teflon coated.
In Jersey where we spend part of our time restrictions were mostly lifted some while ago and cases have sky rocketed. The numbers are huge for such a small island, including a handful who have been double vaccinated.
Going to observe over the next three months or so and see what if any, the effects on club life are.
We have no objection to following whatever rules they may impose. It’s a minor price to pay to enjoy a good night out again and be amongst likeminded friends."
Yes, I'm certainly not rushing anywhere anytime soon. But when I do, I'm happy to show my status or test or both. |
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"I think some local authorities may make it compulsory for some of the clubs. I have no issue with showing my vaccination status or my current test status or doing a test at the door x "
LFT tests can be fudged to get a negative result.
Doing it at the door of a club will take a min of 30 mins, what if theres a queue already?
Where do you wait? In a room inside with others, like the bar?
Wait outside in the rain if you arrive by taxi?? |
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"I think some local authorities may make it compulsory for some of the clubs. I have no issue with showing my vaccination status or my current test status or doing a test at the door x
LFT tests can be fudged to get a negative result.
Doing it at the door of a club will take a min of 30 mins, what if theres a queue already?
Where do you wait? In a room inside with others, like the bar?
Wait outside in the rain if you arrive by taxi??"
What else should we abolish because some people suck?
Money can be forged too. Should we declare it worthless because some people don't want to play fair? |
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Personally speaking, I don't wish to be in a confined indoor space with people who are unvaccinated and/or not very recently tested for covid.
It's different to std tests. The chances of contracting an STD can be greatly minimised by using condoms. Covid can be spread just by being in the same room.
Definitely looking initially at clubs which say they'll check vaccination status or ask for at least a LFT before entry. |
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"Personally speaking, I don't wish to be in a confined indoor space with people who are unvaccinated and/or not very recently tested for covid.
It's different to std tests. The chances of contracting an STD can be greatly minimised by using condoms. Covid can be spread just by being in the same room.
Definitely looking initially at clubs which say they'll check vaccination status or ask for at least a LFT before entry. "
In a thread last night, both Club Play and Quest said that that was their plan |
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People can be showing positive on lateral flows for months... so they’d not be allowed entry?
Or they’d have to discuss their personal medical history with a random person on a club door (not a clinician) to explain it... and even then, would they let them in?
Same as thermometers- unless used correctly what was the point?! Lol
It’s so difficult. I can argue for and against equally well! No idea what the answer is! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is very true let’s face it at clubs we just want to get in, be interesting to see how it plans out so it’s not a waiting game but also safe.
Jabs aren’t 100% effective anyway, neither are the PCR tests and neither are the rapid tests! All we can do is be sensible and careful and be mindful of each other. Defiantly won’t be one to judge everyone has own reasons for not jabbing |
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"I think some local authorities may make it compulsory for some of the clubs. I have no issue with showing my vaccination status or my current test status or doing a test at the door x
LFT tests can be fudged to get a negative result.
Doing it at the door of a club will take a min of 30 mins, what if theres a queue already?
Where do you wait? In a room inside with others, like the bar?
Wait outside in the rain if you arrive by taxi??"
I dont know but I do know I'm unlikely to go to a club that doesnt ask for these checks currently. Yes I'm aware that lft can be fudged but as I've always got at least 2 regular pcr tests on my nhs app, I'm not worried there. To be fair the lft shows up positive pretty much immediately it's just you have to give it 30mins.
The logistics of it are not for me to sort out |
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"This is very true let’s face it at clubs we just want to get in, be interesting to see how it plans out so it’s not a waiting game but also safe.
Jabs aren’t 100% effective anyway, neither are the PCR tests and neither are the rapid tests! All we can do is be sensible and careful and be mindful of each other. Defiantly won’t be one to judge everyone has own reasons for not jabbing "
Seat belts aren't 100% effective so let's not use them.
The sensible thing to do, being mindful of the safety of others, is to ensure everyone entering any sort of indoor premises where mingling happens is either vaccinated or has a very recent negative test.
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If you don't have symptoms, the Lateral Flow test is very likely to give a false negative as there's not enough virus for the test to work on. Also folks, please look at ZOE (symptom tracker) as the symptoms most people get with Delta variant are NOT the same as the original and "Alpha" variants. Symptoms now much more likely to look like a cold - Runny nose, sort throat and headache are the most seen. The "classic" Covid symptoms of persistent cough and temperature, those don't appear now until much further down the list. Much as I'm against howm testing, I think I would test myself if I had a cold, just in case. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Personally speaking, I don't wish to be in a confined indoor space with people who are unvaccinated and/or not very recently tested for covid.
It's different to std tests. The chances of contracting an STD can be greatly minimised by using condoms. Covid can be spread just by being in the same room.
Definitely looking initially at clubs which say they'll check vaccination status or ask for at least a LFT before entry. "
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
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"If you don't have symptoms, the Lateral Flow test is very likely to give a false negative as there's not enough virus for the test to work on. Also folks, please look at ZOE (symptom tracker) as the symptoms most people get with Delta variant are NOT the same as the original and "Alpha" variants. Symptoms now much more likely to look like a cold - Runny nose, sort throat and headache are the most seen. The "classic" Covid symptoms of persistent cough and temperature, those don't appear now until much further down the list. Much as I'm against howm testing, I think I would test myself if I had a cold, just in case."
I have tested myself today - my lfs have been negative since Friday - done 3. Today I felt so bad I resulted to go for a pcr
I did have second jab last week no not sure it is a fallout from that |
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"And what is to stop somebody taking a test before going to a club, it showing positive but the person then registers it as negative? Surely the only way to prove it's negative is to see it actually being done...or am I missing something?"
Exactly on point.. just register a negative result in advance whether you take the test or not, just to jump thru the hoop of getting in.
But if that makes others feel "assured", that's all that matters right?
So as a club/party organiser, how do/would you test attendees at the door? Say 100 tests... imagine the time that takes..
Then put them all in a enclosed waiting room whilst waiting for their result? Leave them outside in the cold/wind/rain?
Doing tests at the door are impracticable. The Government has lumped it on you to deal with it, rather than force it by law and deal with any economic/financial problems caused to you further down the line.
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Don't get why this is so difficult and people are making a big fuss about it. NHS app will show if you are fully vaccinated or have natural immunity due to having recently recovered or if you have had a negative test with the last 48hrs. Yes the test result is your word only but if you test positive yet claim you didn't you are just prize cock womble! And with all the virtue signaling and were in this together mantra that has been chanted the last 12 months you would hope people would be honest.
It would not inconvenience anyone or slow down entry to show your covid pass. And if you "don't want to" simply don't go to a club. It really is that simple. |
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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago
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"Don't get why this is so difficult and people are making a big fuss about it. NHS app will show if you are fully vaccinated or have natural immunity due to having recently recovered or if you have had a negative test with the last 48hrs. Yes the test result is your word only but if you test positive yet claim you didn't you are just prize cock womble! And with all the virtue signaling and were in this together mantra that has been chanted the last 12 months you would hope people would be honest.
It would not inconvenience anyone or slow down entry to show your covid pass. And if you "don't want to" simply don't go to a club. It really is that simple."
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"... Lack of taste and smell also not seen frequently with the Delta variant.
Same with having a temperature.
As some places zap you for a temp when entering
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For me it's all risk reduction. Nothing is ever perfect, but if we all do our bit to reduce our risks, we can try to rebuild some semblance of normalcy again.
If people decide to try to game the system, it'll probably end up hurting the clubs and those of us willing to play by the rules. |
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"I think some local authorities may make it compulsory for some of the clubs. I have no issue with showing my vaccination status or my current test status or doing a test at the door x
LFT tests can be fudged to get a negative result.
Doing it at the door of a club will take a min of 30 mins, what if theres a queue already?
Where do you wait? In a room inside with others, like the bar?
Wait outside in the rain if you arrive by taxi??"
Have you done a LFT? They take only a couple of minutes despite what the instruction to wait 30 min says if the positive line hasn’t showed up by time solution reaches the control line it won’t turn positive later. Or can someone tell me otherwise? |
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"Personally, I think if you aren't willing to do a very simple test accurately and honestly in order to contribute to the safety of all attendees, you should stay at home and wank.
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We all know that there are plenty of people who will happily lie just for a chance of having sex and sod the consequences.
Then there's the group who think it's all made up just to ruin their plans who will do anything to get around the rules.
It makes us very concerned about going to a club because we can be, and have been, as safe as we can but the people next to us could have the virus. |
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"I think some local authorities may make it compulsory for some of the clubs. I have no issue with showing my vaccination status or my current test status or doing a test at the door x
LFT tests can be fudged to get a negative result.
Doing it at the door of a club will take a min of 30 mins, what if theres a queue already?
Where do you wait? In a room inside with others, like the bar?
Wait outside in the rain if you arrive by taxi??
Have you done a LFT? They take only a couple of minutes despite what the instruction to wait 30 min says if the positive line hasn’t showed up by time solution reaches the control line it won’t turn positive later. Or can someone tell me otherwise?"
Unless you're covid positive. In which case it'll take up to 30 minutes to show x |
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"Personally, I think if you aren't willing to do a very simple test accurately and honestly in order to contribute to the safety of all attendees, you should stay at home and wank.
We all know that there are plenty of people who will happily lie just for a chance of having sex and sod the consequences.
Then there's the group who think it's all made up just to ruin their plans who will do anything to get around the rules.
It makes us very concerned about going to a club because we can be, and have been, as safe as we can but the people next to us could have the virus."
Yes. People trying to get around the rules probably hurts clubs by making people less likely to attend, as well as the potential for bad publicity if outbreaks occur. |
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"I think some local authorities may make it compulsory for some of the clubs. I have no issue with showing my vaccination status or my current test status or doing a test at the door x
LFT tests can be fudged to get a negative result.
Doing it at the door of a club will take a min of 30 mins, what if theres a queue already?
Where do you wait? In a room inside with others, like the bar?
Wait outside in the rain if you arrive by taxi??
Have you done a LFT? They take only a couple of minutes despite what the instruction to wait 30 min says if the positive line hasn’t showed up by time solution reaches the control line it won’t turn positive later. Or can someone tell me otherwise?"
All the instructions from the manufacturers say that you must wait for up to 30 minutes as the emergence of the positive mark _may_ be delayed by up to this long. I suspect that in the case of having a very high viral sample the mark will appear faster, if having only a very low viral sample it may be slower.
What the test tells you is that if the mark _does_ appear within the 30 minutes, then you are almost certainly infected. If the mark does not appear, then you could still be infected but might have either a low viral count or have not poked around your nose enough to pick up a decent sized sample. However a negative result gives at least some kind of reassurance, and statistically across a lot of people will be right more often than wrong.
Covid symptoms + positive LFT = yes you are infected.
No symptoms + positive LFT = yes you are very likely infected, get a PCR done.
Covid symptoms + negative LFT = you may or may not be infected, assume you are for the moment, take another test tomorrow and recheck, if symptoms get worse take a PCR check.
Having been exposed to a definite covid case + no symptoms + negative LFT = you might be okay now, but check again tomorrow.
No exposure + no symptoms + negative = this is as good an indication as you are going to get that you have something like a decent chance of being safe. |
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"The vaccinations do not stop transmission. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated can transmit the virus. Were going to have to learn to live with this shit."
They don't stop transmission but it does lower the transmission. But yes I agree we need to learn to live with it x
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By *ooukMan
over a year ago
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I can see all well run events asking for a NHS COVID Pass on there phone before you can enter. anyone can get a NHD COVID pass on there phone so long as they do a Lateral flow test and report it to NHS website this gives you 48hrs to attend events. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Listen guys I understand everyone's concern about going to partys and clubs.In my opinion its down to the individual person to take responsibility for themselves.
Its ok saying you need a vaccine passport but some have chosen not to have vaccine and thats totally there choice.
If clubs turn away those who are not jabbed then this would limit the guests.
I am fully vaccinated and have to do 2 lateral flow tests and a full on covid test weekly due to work.
I know im putting myself at risk if I attend clubs an im not sure if I want to take my mask off.
But I need to live my life and get back to doing what I enjoy
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"Listen guys I understand everyone's concern about going to partys and clubs.In my opinion its down to the individual person to take responsibility for themselves.
Its ok saying you need a vaccine passport but some have chosen not to have vaccine and thats totally there choice.
If clubs turn away those who are not jabbed then this would limit the guests.
I am fully vaccinated and have to do 2 lateral flow tests and a full on covid test weekly due to work.
I know im putting myself at risk if I attend clubs an im not sure if I want to take my mask off.
But I need to live my life and get back to doing what I enjoy
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Passports are vaccination or LFT, not vaccination or GTFO.
I'm vaccinated and it doesn't show up on the NHS app yet (clinical trial). I'm happy to LFT, and in fact do it anyway because I consider it my personal responsibility during this period of high disease spread. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Listen guys I understand everyone's concern about going to partys and clubs.In my opinion its down to the individual person to take responsibility for themselves.
Its ok saying you need a vaccine passport but some have chosen not to have vaccine and thats totally there choice.
If clubs turn away those who are not jabbed then this would limit the guests.
I am fully vaccinated and have to do 2 lateral flow tests and a full on covid test weekly due to work.
I know im putting myself at risk if I attend clubs an im not sure if I want to take my mask off.
But I need to live my life and get back to doing what I enjoy
Passports are vaccination or LFT, not vaccination or GTFO.
I'm vaccinated and it doesn't show up on the NHS app yet (clinical trial). I'm happy to LFT, and in fact do it anyway because I consider it my personal responsibility during this period of high disease spread. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!! |
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!"
I've not done any of that shit. I'm not inclined to take risks like that during a pandemic. Hope this helps. |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!
I've not done any of that shit. I'm not inclined to take risks like that during a pandemic. Hope this helps. "
We've not been to a pub since January 2020. Been to no events. So vaccine certs in clubs would make us return earlier. Not everyone is thinking this is over just some mitigation woyld make things safer for everyone. Just like the announcement this morning by the mayor of London about public transport for London |
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!
I've not done any of that shit. I'm not inclined to take risks like that during a pandemic. Hope this helps.
We've not been to a pub since January 2020. Been to no events. So vaccine certs in clubs would make us return earlier. Not everyone is thinking this is over just some mitigation woyld make things safer for everyone. Just like the announcement this morning by the mayor of London about public transport for London "
I have a local cafe with so much space that I can sit over 5 metres away near an open door. So I do that. But pub? No. Places without social distancing? Absolutely not.
I don't see how a testing requirement is anything other than a way to help things get back to normal. And those of us with vulnerable people in our lives might be able to venture out without putting them at undue risk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!"
I've been a very good girl not been out to any pubs or social gatherings! But I'm looking forwad to getting back to so normality b4 I crack up |
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!"
And here is the problem.
The small group who thinks it's all made up and they're the only intelligent people who have seen through all the subterfuge.
They make their choices about not being vaccinated but then get frustrated when the rest of us don't want to be in an enclosed space with them. Have cake and eat it.
I think if clubs require strict double vaccinated and test they aren't going to struggle at all with numbers.
But hey that's just my opinion based on the available evidence. |
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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!"
To get into those events you needed a test beforehand so it’s no different. Try telling all the families of those that have died from COVID it’s all bullshit. Lots of people test several times a week for work. On the other hand people like you won’t be going to clubs! |
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!
And here is the problem.
The small group who thinks it's all made up and they're the only intelligent people who have seen through all the subterfuge.
They make their choices about not being vaccinated but then get frustrated when the rest of us don't want to be in an enclosed space with them. Have cake and eat it.
I think if clubs require strict double vaccinated and test they aren't going to struggle at all with numbers.
But hey that's just my opinion based on the available evidence."
Can I ask a question if you was to be in a environment with only people who have been double vaccinated will that stop you from catching or spreading the virus NO... so why the hell would you put something in your body that A you do not know what it contains and if you did know what was in it probably half of you wouldn’t put it in your body and B does not do what it is supposed to do... if anything it’s causing more harm then good. The amount of people being vaccinated then becoming sick is unreal. So if people don’t want to take the vaccine that is their choice, we are just as much risk as those who have had the vaccine #Respectfully |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!
And here is the problem.
The small group who thinks it's all made up and they're the only intelligent people who have seen through all the subterfuge.
They make their choices about not being vaccinated but then get frustrated when the rest of us don't want to be in an enclosed space with them. Have cake and eat it.
I think if clubs require strict double vaccinated and test they aren't going to struggle at all with numbers.
But hey that's just my opinion based on the available evidence."
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!
And here is the problem.
The small group who thinks it's all made up and they're the only intelligent people who have seen through all the subterfuge.
They make their choices about not being vaccinated but then get frustrated when the rest of us don't want to be in an enclosed space with them. Have cake and eat it.
I think if clubs require strict double vaccinated and test they aren't going to struggle at all with numbers.
But hey that's just my opinion based on the available evidence.
Can I ask a question if you was to be in a environment with only people who have been double vaccinated will that stop you from catching or spreading the virus NO... so why the hell would you put something in your body that A you do not know what it contains and if you did know what was in it probably half of you wouldn’t put it in your body and B does not do what it is supposed to do... if anything it’s causing more harm then good. The amount of people being vaccinated then becoming sick is unreal. So if people don’t want to take the vaccine that is their choice, we are just as much risk as those who have had the vaccine #Respectfully"
I know exactly what the vaccine contains. The list of ingredients is publicly available. Just because you can't be arsed to look it up and wouldn't understand it if you did, doesn't make it dangerous or worrying.
Being in an enclosed space with only double jabbed people massively reduces the transmission. Again the evidence is clear and published.
Your right to "choice" ends when it endangers the health of others. |
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"It’s crazy because I bet some if not most of you guys on this forum have been to the pub over the last few weeks to watch England play or even gone to Wembley with 70 000 people or even Wimbledon where no social distancing was in place or mask being worn because the government said it’s okay... Just wow it’s amazes me just how gullible and naive some people can be... Do you ask for people to be tested before you go to work or go and stand in a que for Tesco.. But these are the same people who we will see in a club so what the difference. But as it’s already been said in this thread EACH TO THEIR OWN !!!
This plandemics is all bull shit but that’s just my opinion!!
And here is the problem.
The small group who thinks it's all made up and they're the only intelligent people who have seen through all the subterfuge.
They make their choices about not being vaccinated but then get frustrated when the rest of us don't want to be in an enclosed space with them. Have cake and eat it.
I think if clubs require strict double vaccinated and test they aren't going to struggle at all with numbers.
But hey that's just my opinion based on the available evidence.
Can I ask a question if you was to be in a environment with only people who have been double vaccinated will that stop you from catching or spreading the virus NO... so why the hell would you put something in your body that A you do not know what it contains and if you did know what was in it probably half of you wouldn’t put it in your body and B does not do what it is supposed to do... if anything it’s causing more harm then good. The amount of people being vaccinated then becoming sick is unreal. So if people don’t want to take the vaccine that is their choice, we are just as much risk as those who have had the vaccine #Respectfully"
Of course you can ask.
I also know exactly what the vaccine contains, I'm close friends with someone who has been involved with the testing and examining the results and so i don't have an irrational fear of a vaccine.
You have a choice to believe whatever you want to believe, to take whatever you want to take or not. The limitations of your choice stops the moment that your choices impact on people around you. If clubs choose to limit the access to people who have chosen to take a vaccine then that is their right too.
Having a vaccine reduces the likelihood of someone catching the virus, it then limits the viral load that person produces which limits the likelihood of the person spreading the virus to people near them.
Respectfully I will repeat, your choice is limited to your actions and stops when when it impacts on anyone else. You cannot expect to have your cake and eat it. |
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Have taken several tests all negative, both double vaccinated, we will meet vaccinated people , not going to insist on tests as they are not accurate, we can still catch COVID even vaccinated, just with less harsh symptoms, lts going to be around for years we want to live our life as normal as possible . We will not meet unvaccinated people , and will keep our meets the way we have in the past , we only play a few times a year anyway so that limits our chances of catching it , so many other illnesses can hit you just as bad , lost over 25 friends in last two years , only two had COVID mentioned , but wasn’t cause of their deaths , try live normal life’s peeps have fun your time could come anytime |
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"Come on guys let's all just calm down we all on hear for the same reasons fun!fun!fun! Let's just all respect everyone's opinions and stay safe!   "
No. Not all "opinions" are equal. Nobody gets a free pass to spout rubbish by saying "it's my opinion"
Anything anyone says is open to polite criticism and examination of facts.
And staying safe is precisely what this is about. |
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"Come on guys let's all just calm down we all on hear for the same reasons fun!fun!fun! Let's just all respect everyone's opinions and stay safe!
No. Not all "opinions" are equal. Nobody gets a free pass to spout rubbish by saying "it's my opinion"
Anything anyone says is open to polite criticism and examination of facts.
And staying safe is precisely what this is about."
whatever!!! |
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"I can see all well run events asking for a NHS COVID Pass on there phone before you can enter. anyone can get a NHD COVID pass on there phone so long as they do a Lateral flow test and report it to NHS website this gives you 48hrs to attend events."
But you dont have to do the test.
You just need to register it as negative to get in. 
Dont assume everyone has tested negative to get in an event somewhere. |
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"I can see all well run events asking for a NHS COVID Pass on there phone before you can enter. anyone can get a NHD COVID pass on there phone so long as they do a Lateral flow test and report it to NHS website this gives you 48hrs to attend events.
But you dont have to do the test.
You just need to register it as negative to get in.
Dont assume everyone has tested negative to get in an event somewhere. "
Unfortunately you can’t do anything about that. Just got to hope most people have some common sense |
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"I can see all well run events asking for a NHS COVID Pass on there phone before you can enter. anyone can get a NHD COVID pass on there phone so long as they do a Lateral flow test and report it to NHS website this gives you 48hrs to attend events.
But you dont have to do the test.
You just need to register it as negative to get in.
Dont assume everyone has tested negative to get in an event somewhere. "
One of many reasons why I won't be going anywhere in the first phase of total unlocking. Unfortunately I've learned that people can't be trusted. |
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By *kexpatMan
over a year ago
kingston |
There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses |
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By *uysx2Couple (MM)
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses"
What makes a private club require testing or a Covid passport when so many other places, work, the gym, shops, pubs, bars, don't ask for anything? |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses"
I don't shag anyone in restaurants and definitely not tradespeople that come to my house. |
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By *uysx2Couple (MM)
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses
I don't shag anyone in restaurants and definitely not tradespeople that come to my house. "
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses
What makes a private club require testing or a Covid passport when so many other places, work, the gym, shops, pubs, bars, don't ask for anything? "
It could be all the bodily fluids being exchanged and the close contact. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses
I don't shag anyone in restaurants and definitely not tradespeople that come to my house.
Are you sure?"
Definitely not! I'm a lady! |
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"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses"
Restaurants yes, others no.
When I visit restaurants with others I lft before and those I go with do the same. I probably won't keep going if I can't sit near an open door and if staff masks are dropped.
Others, no.
Also, if they get as close to me as someone might in a club... No one consents to seeing that in public and we'd probably be arrested.
No one's coming in my house. |
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By *uysx2Couple (MM)
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses
What makes a private club require testing or a Covid passport when so many other places, work, the gym, shops, pubs, bars, don't ask for anything?
It could be all the bodily fluids being exchanged and the close contact. "
I did a spin class the other night. It was in a confined space with 18 other people expelling breath out into the room and dripping sweat onto the floor and the equipment. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses
What makes a private club require testing or a Covid passport when so many other places, work, the gym, shops, pubs, bars, don't ask for anything?
It could be all the bodily fluids being exchanged and the close contact.
I did a spin class the other night. It was in a confined space with 18 other people expelling breath out into the room and dripping sweat onto the floor and the equipment."
You dirty trouts! |
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By *uysx2Couple (MM)
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses
What makes a private club require testing or a Covid passport when so many other places, work, the gym, shops, pubs, bars, don't ask for anything?
It could be all the bodily fluids being exchanged and the close contact.
I did a spin class the other night. It was in a confined space with 18 other people expelling breath out into the room and dripping sweat onto the floor and the equipment.
You dirty trouts! "
Lol! Sorry Lady Keeley. |
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"There seems to be a bit of tunnel vision with regards to testing in clubs. To put it in perspective, to those suggesting or demanding testing in clubs, how many of you will still visiting other venues such as pubs, cinemas, resturants that are not doing testing and are just as confined? How many also demand friends, relatives or tradespeople visting their homes prove their vaccine status or latest test result? The home has a higher risk than most businesses"
I've been inside a pub once since March last year, in August in Hastings when cases were very low. And I went to a restaurant then too.
I went to two restaurants which used social distancing and took contact details in May when cases were low and I'd been double Pfizered.
I've no intention of going anywhere indoors and crowded until case numbers are far lower than at present.
If a plumber or electrician visits, we can keep our distance and have the windows open. Indeed when an electrician did visit last month he also wore a mask.
I know the vaccine status of friends and family members. I also have some idea of their risk profile, if they see lots of other people or work with lots of people indoors.... because they're friends. |
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I couldn't care less either way but don't see why you'd want to go to places if you want everyone tested first. If you're that worried don't go because nothing is 100% accurate so why risk it for the sake of a fumble.
I understand a place wanting us to for their staffs sake as they're back at work and in this environment we see how much contact they have to have with what's inside but for Others attending then I don't agree. |
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By *EloveMan
over a year ago
Pool of Life |
"Have taken several tests all negative, both double vaccinated, we will meet vaccinated people , not going to insist on tests as they are not accurate, we can still catch COVID even vaccinated, just with less harsh symptoms, lts going to be around for years we want to live our life as normal as possible . We will not meet unvaccinated people , and will keep our meets the way we have in the past , we only play a few times a year anyway so that limits our chances of catching it , so many other illnesses can hit you just as bad , lost over 25 friends in last two years , only two had COVID mentioned , but wasn’t cause of their deaths , try live normal life’s peeps have fun your time could come anytime "
This is so level headed and calm, realistic- love ?? it.
Infact most people's comments have been here. Some gorgeous men and woman too. I won't call out names , nore will I call out the idiot who said some people's opinions are more equal than others
Wow! Unbelievable lol. |
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