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If the two 'singles' stay together and play together then fair do's but the clubs I go too, soon oust those that are obviously single men on couples night.
before everyone jumps on me, I have no gripe against couples that go in and dont play together however play independantly, I only get fed up of single men, abusing couple only nights to pester the women as they see less competion on a couples night then single men nights | |||
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"We must add 'rucksacking' to our swingersauraus.... "its a really great phrase..... I have seen that at my local club once or twice.... now i can explain it to the staff..... | |||
"Seen "ticketing" in action, but thankfully I think the better clubs have the "come together play together" rule sorted by now. What's harder to "police" is what I call "rucksacking" which is something else I've noticed, especially with younger couples. It's where the guy is obviously keen, and the female not so. "Rucksackers" tend to go into "dark rooms", "grope rooms" and the like, with the guy free to touch/feel/etc whilst the female, too scared to say boo to a goose, clings onto her partner, holding on to his shouldsers and neck, her front pressed against this back (which is why she resembles a rucksack) so that no-one can touch her, other than her bottom. Seeing that in action, it's like the "workaround" to clubs enforcing rules agaiinst "ticketing". Bearing in mind that someone unwilling to play would find this a much more harrowing experience, it's something that also needs to get ed out IMHO, but rarely have I seen any club take any action about it." I'd call it the beast with two backs. I dunno exactly what this is to be honest...but how deeply do ppl care about non players in clubs..I kinda thought the point was gain entry do whatever u like within the rules, and respect how others wish to play???? As for ticketing, if staff see a single(of either sex) or a cpl playing seperatley in a playroom designed for cpls...they can attend to that.However ppl are free to roam the other places if they wish in my opinion.pay ur money...do what u like(within the above stated boundaries) whats next?? provide marriage documents????- who knows who is a REAL couple or not...who's actual business is it?..this isnt a poly scene is it? | |||
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"Clubs are there to make money thats all. Farmcpl x" some people think a woman only club would make money!-only if the club had fuckin seethru walls maybe! lol | |||
"Clubs are there to make money thats all. Farmcpl x some people think a woman only club would make money!-only if the club had fuckin seethru walls maybe! lol" *and charged the onlookers lol | |||
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"Thats why we prefer to entertain....even parties. X" Thanks for the invite...my creepiness will get the party going! | |||
"Seen "ticketing" in action, but thankfully I think the better clubs have the "come together play together" rule sorted by now. What's harder to "police" is what I call "rucksacking" which is something else I've noticed, especially with younger couples. It's where the guy is obviously keen, and the female not so. "Rucksackers" tend to go into "dark rooms", "grope rooms" and the like, with the guy free to touch/feel/etc whilst the female, too scared to say boo to a goose, clings onto her partner, holding on to his shouldsers and neck, her front pressed against this back (which is why she resembles a rucksack) so that no-one can touch her, other than her bottom. Seeing that in action, it's like the "workaround" to clubs enforcing rules agaiinst "ticketing". Bearing in mind that someone unwilling to play would find this a much more harrowing experience, it's something that also needs to get ed out IMHO, but rarely have I seen any club take any action about it. I'd call it the beast with two backs. I dunno exactly what this is to be honest...but how deeply do ppl care about non players in clubs..I kinda thought the point was gain entry do whatever u like within the rules, and respect how others wish to play???? As for ticketing, if staff see a single(of either sex) or a cpl playing seperatley in a playroom designed for cpls...they can attend to that.However ppl are free to roam the other places if they wish in my opinion.pay ur money...do what u like(within the above stated boundaries) whats next?? provide marriage documents????- who knows who is a REAL couple or not...who's actual business is it?..this isnt a poly scene is it?" We don't have any problem with doing whatever they want in a club, within the rules of the club. As little or as much as they like, or nothing at all. that's the way it should be. Ticketing at some venues is a real problem but some clubs deal with it very quickly quietly and easily. A good example of what we are talking about is this. We were at Liberty Elite one time, been there a couple of hours, we got in the Jacuzzi with 4 other couples or so. We had seen two new couples come in earlier and hang around by the bar, we noticed the women didn't look comfortable at all, but put it down to first time nerves. At any rate suddenly one of the men gets in the Jacuzzi with the rest of us and is trying to join in with the couples playing in the Jacuzzi. Like lighting one of the staff is there and asks him to come back to the bar area, which he does so immediately. They are then reminded that they are NOT to go into the play areas of the club unaccompained, as per stated by the club rules. Hats off to Liberty, everyone was very impressed by this. The conversation in the Jacuzzi then erupted with several couples commenting these two guys had already tried this on in other areas of the club (They had only been there less than 20 minutes and their companions were in the bar the entire time) Lots of clubs have this rule on a Saturday night, its the reason people go on a Couples Only night, (the hint being in the words Couples Only) and its that they feel comfortable because of this. If they wanted that kind of attention or were comfortable with it, they would go on a mixed night. You will find alot of couples gravitate towards clubs that are good at enforcing this policy and that makes good business sense because if they want to make money, believe us they will care about their customers coming back again. | |||
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"Some interesting points of view and info. Like many we don't have a problem with people bringing who they like, but don't agree with a 'token' woman being brought along and discarded so that the creep can harass others. Obviously, if both halves of the couple want to play separately with mutual consent, then no problem, as long as both halves have been invited by the other people involved. To us, the problem definitely stems from the club staff not really caring. It is clear that less people are going than there used to be, but that just means that the club is even less likely to enforce rules as they don't want to lose what little custom they still have." That's it in a nutshell and think you have proven our point by saying you will vote with your wallet accordingly. Don't be afraid to voice your concerns to a venue though, we know its VERY HARD TO DO THIS WHEN YOU ARE THERE. Many people do like to make a fuss and would rather make the best of the night, but be that as it may, always write to them afterwards. Be polite, but just tell them what the problems were and why you didnt have a good time. The owners of a venue are not always made aware of every issue by their staff, but that doesn't mean that they do not want to hear about and a decent club will take on board everything you tell them and hopefully act on it to. | |||
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"... but don't agree with a 'token' woman being brought along and discarded so that the creep can harass others..." There's a hint in that that "the creep" is a single guy who has smuggled a woman in under false pretenses. It's my experience that in the majority of cases of something like this happening, it's bona-fide married couples where the husband is "the creep" and the wife is the "token woman". There are many cases that I've seen where the husband is into the sex scene a lot more than the wife, and she has to play along to some extent for fear of losing their marriage. Single guys are ten a penny and if one finds a "mixed doubles partner" to play with, I think he'd twice of messing her around for fear of losing what he's got as there is not the same overall level of security in their arrangement that a married couple has. | |||
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"... but don't agree with a 'token' woman being brought along and discarded so that the creep can harass others... There's a hint in that that "the creep" is a single guy who has smuggled a woman in under false pretenses. It's my experience that in the majority of cases of something like this happening, it's bona-fide married couples where the husband is "the creep" and the wife is the "token woman". There are many cases that I've seen where the husband is into the sex scene a lot more than the wife, and she has to play along to some extent for fear of losing their marriage. Single guys are ten a penny and if one finds a "mixed doubles partner" to play with, I think he'd twice of messing her around for fear of losing what he's got as there is not the same overall level of security in their arrangement that a married couple has." Very good point. Chances are he was part of a 'proper' couple, although we've heard a couple of stories in private now of single guys taking single girls who they had no actual interest in, and then ditching them. | |||
"He's more of a voyeur than I am so he'll occasionally have a nosey through the windows etc (not hassling other people), but he'll never leave me alone for longer than a few minutes or if I feel uncomfortable and I know he'd never disappear and play with someone " Ah, I know, he's one of those geezers who sprints round clubs like there's a fire somewhere, bursts into a room, then tuts and zooms out if there's nothing going on right at that moment.
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"He's more of a voyeur than I am so he'll occasionally have a nosey through the windows etc (not hassling other people), but he'll never leave me alone for longer than a few minutes or if I feel uncomfortable and I know he'd never disappear and play with someone Ah, I know, he's one of those geezers who sprints round clubs like there's a fire somewhere, bursts into a room, then tuts and zooms out if there's nothing going on right at that moment.
"Lol...in all fairness he isn't. I wouldn't go with him if that was the case because it'd be too embarrassing! x | |||
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" I like the attitude VA have about it and cant wait to go there and see because these "fuckbuddy" or "ticketer" couples really ruin the whole idea of a couples night for me. " we try and avoid the fuckbuddy couples as we have no interest in them,its not what its about to us. we def avoid the creepy single men who think standing inches away wanking their little mushroom tip is going to turn nik on. ive lost count the amount ive told go away | |||
"We must add 'rucksacking' to our swingersauraus.... "very funny lol we've got a few words to add to your book over our time swinging lol. Bizzaar is our favorite lol.  | |||
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