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Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...? |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...? "
If you press the green arrow on the poster above you you will find plenty threads by them with clear & the best answers to all questions regarding the opening of clubs |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...? "
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. The answers are here...follow my green arrow or just read the forums. Job done mate |
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Been on here ages did not know about the green arrow so not only am I getting more information on Covid I learning about the forum as well
Roll on the end of lockdown until then keep safe xxx |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. The answers are here...follow my green arrow or just read the forums. Job done mate"
Only 12 weeks I wonder if you will have any hair left in another few weeks 
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"Been on here ages did not know about the green arrow so not only am I getting more information on Covid I learning about the forum as well
Roll on the end of lockdown until then keep safe xxx"
It's very helpful xx |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. The answers are here...follow my green arrow or just read the forums. Job done mate
Only 12 weeks I wonder if you will have any hair left in another few weeks
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Well before lockdown, I had a buzzcut which has rapidly grown into a burst mattress, I therefore have plenty to tug on hahaha xxx |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?   "
Spain has just announced that they will not be opening any nightclubs in 2020 and possibly not even 2021 unless a vaccine or drugs are found to treat Covid . Where does that leave us?! Surely no nightclubs will not open in 2020 and likewise unfortunately with clubs . |
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Spain has just announced that they will not be opening any nightclubs in 2020 and possibly not even 2021 unless a vaccine or drugs are found to treat Covid . Where does that leave us?! Surely no nightclubs will not open in 2020 and likewise unfortunately with clubs . "
Where did you get this from? |
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If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. The answers are here...follow my green arrow or just read the forums. Job done mate"
Maybe people want others opinions / knowledge and not just yours? |
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If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
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Seriously?  . It would be sexier to get a liver transplant! Sex clubs will not reopen until social distancing has ended. |
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"If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
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To answer a couple of pm’s
1 who would be entitled legally to request “track & trace” info ? I/we don’t know.
2 what would this mean under current data protection laws ? I/we don’t know
3 when will you know how clubs - swingers clubs in particular be given regs,rules & specific guidance to protect customers & staff ? You guessed it - we don’t know.
4 are you not being very pessimistic about opening your own club ? Perhaps but I like other owners are trying to be realistic & finding risk mitigating ways by which we can prepare & protect our business, staff, customers
Thanks for you messages & questions. I will give me best guesses or work with the official information to hand to answer where I can xx B |
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When nightclubs are allowed to open again, swinging clubs can then consider reopening.A large number in an enclosed space unfortunately is the worst place to be for passing on infection. It’s gonna be a long wait! |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. The answers are here...follow my green arrow or just read the forums. Job done mate
Maybe people want others opinions / knowledge and not just yours?"
And they are also on the hundreds of posts elsewhere on the subject  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. T"
If you are bored with answering avoid the threads and let someone else instead |
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"Been on here ages did not know about the green arrow so not only am I getting more information on Covid I learning about the forum as well
Roll on the end of lockdown until then keep safe xxx
It's very helpful xx"
Didn't know about the green arrow either! |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. T
If you are bored with answering avoid the threads and let someone else instead"
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. T
If you are bored with answering avoid the threads and let someone else instead"
No problem at all admin!! I will let people continue to speculate over several threads. Other clubs are also fed up of the negativity on 'the clubs re-opening subject' and are just not commenting at all now. It's been down to me and Brucey and we are fed up of the club bashing and the same shit day in day out. There will be no facts at all...just heresay from people who are not in communication with the public health authorities. I could do with a break from the forums anyway.
TTFN xxx |
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"When nightclubs are allowed to open again, swinging clubs can then consider reopening.A large number in an enclosed space unfortunately is the worst place to be for passing on infection. It’s gonna be a long wait! "
Hope not. Hope we as adults can make our own choices whether to ‘risk it’ or not |
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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago
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If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
Seriously? . It would be sexier to get a liver transplant! Sex clubs will not reopen until social distancing has ended."
and not likely to be economically viable either ...
2020 is a washout for swinging and clubs . Not a high priority in the scheme of things . |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"When nightclubs are allowed to open again, swinging clubs can then consider reopening.A large number in an enclosed space unfortunately is the worst place to be for passing on infection. It’s gonna be a long wait!
Hope not. Hope we as adults can make our own choices whether to ‘risk it’ or not "
Your risk personal risk assessment is totally irrelevant. Its highly unlikely you will see nightclubs open in 2020 and they aren’t classed as adult entertainment’ |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Way off the mark.
You cant do social distancing in a swingers club.
If they try to reopen without social distancing they will lose their licences and be closed down.
Next year . . . possibly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"According to the latest news, there is a glimmer of hope that a vaccine will be available before the end of this year. A light at the end of a long tunnel for clubs to reopen."
If in the unlikely event they get a vaccine 'before the end of year' it takes months after that to test the results to see if it efficient enough. So vaccine cure if found still many months away |
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There’s already many vaccines, 2 made by the UK, Germany, US, China have their own versions etc
The problem isn’t designing a vaccine we’ve already done that - it’s making sure one or more firstly works and secondly is safe - UK vaccine trials starting in April the second vaccine trial is starting now
So it al depends on how well they’ve designed them and possibly a bit of luck - it may work quickly or if all they fail a lot longer |
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"There’s already many vaccines, 2 made by the UK, Germany, US, China have their own versions etc
The problem isn’t designing a vaccine we’ve already done that - it’s making sure one or more firstly works and secondly is safe - UK vaccine trials starting in April the second vaccine trial is starting now
So it al depends on how well they’ve designed them and possibly a bit of luck - it may work quickly or if all they fail a lot longer "
Well Astra Zenica are already manufacturing the Oxford Uni vaccine so lets hope it passes cinical trials eh  |
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Spain has just announced that they will not be opening any nightclubs in 2020 and possibly not even 2021 unless a vaccine or drugs are found to treat Covid . Where does that leave us?! Surely no nightclubs will not open in 2020 and likewise unfortunately with clubs . "
Where did u get this news from. Can we stop spreading false news pls |
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Spain has just announced that they will not be opening any nightclubs in 2020 and possibly not even 2021 unless a vaccine or drugs are found to treat Covid . Where does that leave us?! Surely no nightclubs will not open in 2020 and likewise unfortunately with clubs .
Where did u get this news from. Can we stop spreading false news pls"
That is not the full picture. The Balearics have said the Super Clubs won’t open this year. But smaller ones will be allowed to open. And the really big Ibiza Clubs just wouldn’t work this summer anyway.
We need to be carfeful how we disseminate information. I actually think Swingers Clubs have a shot at opening this year. Positive attitudes everyone.  |
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We need to be carfeful how we disseminate information. I actually think Swingers Clubs have a shot at opening this year. Positive attitudes everyone.
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It's not about being positive or negative, it's about being realistic. Yes, all businesses are eventually going to reopen, but sex clubs will not be at the top of the list. Let's hope the vaccine works and is rolled out quickly, I'll be at the front of the queue! |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...?
Because the same questions get asked so much on here, it's like groundhog day! A quick scroll down this very same forum before starting a thread would have given the answers to his question.
The point you're missing is from a club perspective, I've been answering the same question week in, week out for 12 weeks and it's just become a bit boring. The answers are here...follow my green arrow or just read the forums. Job done mate"
Heres a tip...maybe stop answering then, for each and every club or club owner or club lifestyle...maybe then you'd not feel so angry/passionately about people asking simple questions. 
I've personally noticed it for months now and I cant see its healthy for you
You should be pleased people are still showing an interest to return to jacuzzis and small environments for sex maybe?, instead of barking at them on all available mentioned posts. |
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"Hi can I just ask why a straight answer(no pun btw) wasn't given asking the OP to refer to other posts unless you quote specific posts is neither helpful, etiquette and pointless... Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something here btw...? "
there's only so many times you can keep answering the same question before it becomes tedious and annoying  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They open when they open.
As many have said, it's not safe, nor will it be safe until a vaccine or drug to prevent or cure covid is made.
You cant social distance when you've got someone hanging out the back of you
If you "want to risk it" do it on your own terms/ premises.
Clubs that dont open for your pleasure and are thinking of the safety of their customers and staff are to be praised for thinking about others rather than trying to make quick money.
I miss clubs (miss) but I'm prepared to wait, as the term ( like a child at Christmas) frustrating as it is, it's for the best |
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"That doesn’t really answer the OP question of what licensing group or category they come under now does it "
Swingers clubs are in a GREY area & undefined. Considered Somewhere between an everyday night club/pub & a sauna or gym.
However in none of those (usually) there is no sexual contact. The swingers clubs & their owners have to interpret guidelines that will & do apply to the above & go to great lengths to ensure its VERY safe to open at the right time. Hope this helps. Bruce - Cupids |
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again? "
So does anybody have the answer? Seeing as individual clubs are being discouraged from posting their knowlege are we just all going to speculate when they are allowed to open or has anyone actually researched it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Clubs will probably not be able to operate until social distancing has ended.
Most other leisure venues you can at least put social distancing measures in place, that kinda goes against the whole idea of a swingers club. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Swinging venues are private members clubs, like any other.
changed will have to be put in place with regard to layout and guidelines but they will reopen. "
Nobody said they will not reopen.
The question being asked on this thread is: When?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Very soon hopefully
Some people seem to think it will not be until we get a vaccine, “ that may never happen “.
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I think it this will be the case.
The big detail in all of this is 'social distancing' and this is impossible at a swingers clubs. Normal nightclubs will struggle to get a licence so what chance does a swingers club have |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
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Virus not reducing government haven't got a clue why do you all things we are nearly out of this
Hopefully I'm wrong this going to hit fan in October alot worse then we already had
No vaccine
R number about to go above 1
Out Breaks starting around country
My cock is not 1m long therefore social distance doesn't work in club
Are you all selfish and don't worry about vulnerable people or just stupid |
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"Virus not reducing government haven't got a clue why do you all things we are nearly out of this
Hopefully I'm wrong this going to hit fan in October alot worse then we already had
No vaccine
R number about to go above 1
Out Breaks starting around country
My cock is not 1m long therefore social distance doesn't work in club
Are you all selfish and don't worry about vulnerable people or just stupid "
Selfish and most probably stupid most are I think |
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" Very soon hopefully
Some people seem to think it will not be until we get a vaccine, “ that may never happen “.
I think it this will be the case.
The big detail in all of this is 'social distancing' and this is impossible at a swingers clubs. Normal nightclubs will struggle to get a licence so what chance does a swingers club have"
If the instances of new infections keeps falling then social distancing can be and in my opinion will be ended before a vaccine is found and available to all.
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" Very soon hopefully
Some people seem to think it will not be until we get a vaccine, “ that may never happen “.
I think it this will be the case.
The big detail in all of this is 'social distancing' and this is impossible at a swingers clubs. Normal nightclubs will struggle to get a licence so what chance does a swingers club have
If the instances of new infections keeps falling then social distancing can be and in my opinion will be ended before a vaccine is found and available to all.
Your opinion seems to differ from that of scientific and medical experts who say this is the new normal and social distancing is with us for the foreseeable future
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some people seem to think because the government are easing lockdown in stages everything is going to be Bach to the old normal "sooner rather than later" has been posted often. This virus isn't going away anytime soon and social distancing unfortunately is the new normal |
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Some people seem to think because the government are easing lockdown in stages everything is going to be Bach to the old normal "sooner rather than later" has been posted often. This virus isn't going away anytime soon and social distancing unfortunately is the new normal "
Hows that going to work,never being able to hug your family. Never meet a new partner, social distancing has to end or the human race will end. |
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Some people seem to think because the government are easing lockdown in stages everything is going to be Bach to the old normal "sooner rather than later" has been posted often. This virus isn't going away anytime soon and social distancing unfortunately is the new normal Hows that going to work,never being able to hug your family. Never meet a new partner, social distancing has to end or the human race will end.
Try listening to the news or read a newspaper, educate yourself or try and gain some common sense.
Part of easing of measures are starting to include family and other households to mix with each other.
Social distancing as a rule could we with us for a very long time |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It works you did it properly lie newzea land. If we did we would be back to normal
If you hug your family give them virus and they die.
How would u feel"
WHO now saying that can't happen, it was project fear to control the virus. |
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For now basically clubs when we/they do open will provide “EROTIC SOCIALISING” may not suit all but it will suit some. Personally lol I can live with it. Xx B / Cupids |
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"There's tons of other forum posts about this. Clubs will not be opening for swinging parties at the beginning of July. For reasons why, refer to the other forum posts in this category "
Totally
Social distancing and no close contact with family away from your home and other people'is still inforce
This puts us one of the highest risk catergories and one of the last industries to legally reopen.
Those with bars that obide by rules could open for socials but there could be no swinging side to this for health and safety reasons
Im shocked people aren't getting this how high risk the scene is.. and even advertising parties... |
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If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
Seriously? . It would be sexier to get a liver transplant! Sex clubs will not reopen until social distancing has ended."
We looked into all the above options.. entrances would have lower footfall extra staff and costing higher it's hard to enforce and still mass high risk if one person is infected due to close proximity even with distancing ... |
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In truth no one knows what is going to happen next all this speculation about will they open will they not whatever whatever nobody knows clients or owners best to wait and see I am in medical game myself I for one would go back as soon as they open but I am sure some wont as I see it clubs are no more of a problem then football crowds churches discos and so on can they keep those places crowd free indefinitely very doubtful u may well find clubs open sooner then some people think |
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" Very soon hopefully
Some people seem to think it will not be until we get a vaccine, “ that may never happen “.
I think it this will be the case.
The big detail in all of this is 'social distancing' and this is impossible at a swingers clubs. Normal nightclubs will struggle to get a licence so what chance does a swingers club have
If the instances of new infections keeps falling then social distancing can be and in my opinion will be ended before a vaccine is found and available to all.
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Even if we do get vaccine it won't be available to the majority for a few years.
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Just one thought. I noticed that in order to remove the 14 day quarantine they are talking of using a swab for Covid that has results in seven hours. Perhaps weekend events accom on-site or tents caravans etc after tests could be the way ? Intense but less frequent events perhaps |
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"Just one thought. I noticed that in order to remove the 14 day quarantine they are talking of using a swab for Covid that has results in seven hours. Perhaps weekend events accom on-site or tents caravans etc after tests could be the way ? Intense but less frequent events perhaps "
Yes but those tests at airports are not free they are very expensive, so it would be the same for a swingers club and most people wouldn't go through that it's not a pleasant experience. |
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"If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
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I take it the word ‘bare’ was deliberately put in like that lol |
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"If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
I take it the word ‘bare’ was deliberately put in like that lol"
you spotted it lol x |
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Nail soundly hit on the head
Folks are wishing the situation to change but no amount of inane and constant speculation is going to do that. It is what it is for the long term and short of eradication or vaccine etc cramming folks into a hot humid Petri dish to writhe together and exchange bodily fluids is not a goer, no matter how much we miss it. It’s like trying to put a classification on a bomb and hoping the explosive is too damp to detonate. |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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" Very soon hopefully
Some people seem to think it will not be until we get a vaccine, “ that may never happen “.
I think it this will be the case.
The big detail in all of this is 'social distancing' and this is impossible at a swingers clubs. Normal nightclubs will struggle to get a licence so what chance does a swingers club have
If the instances of new infections keeps falling then social distancing can be and in my opinion will be ended before a vaccine is found and available to all.
Even if we do get vaccine it won't be available to the majority for a few years.
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over a year ago
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"That doesn’t really answer the OP question of what licensing group or category they come under now does it "
to be fair the one club owner who took their time to point people in the direction of where that info may be given has basically been chewed out by people (and an op) for pointing people in the direction of where the question may be answered....
they cant win for not knowing.... and i am sure as soon as they know we will know!!!!
it is what it is.... they open when they open!!!
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"If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
To answer a couple of pm’s
1 who would be entitled legally to request “track & trace” info ? I/we don’t know.
2 what would this mean under current data protection laws ? I/we don’t know
3 when will you know how clubs - swingers clubs in particular be given regs,rules & specific guidance to protect customers & staff ? You guessed it - we don’t know.
4 are you not being very pessimistic about opening your own club ? Perhaps but I like other owners are trying to be realistic & finding risk mitigating ways by which we can prepare & protect our business, staff, customers
Thanks for you messages & questions. I will give me best guesses or work with the official information to hand to answer where I can xx B"
why would clubs have to keep your data and be responsible for track and trace? nowhere else that people mix have to do this ... no supermarket, retail store is retaining data on its users |
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"If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
To answer a couple of pm’s
1 who would be entitled legally to request “track & trace” info ? I/we don’t know.
2 what would this mean under current data protection laws ? I/we don’t know
3 when will you know how clubs - swingers clubs in particular be given regs,rules & specific guidance to protect customers & staff ? You guessed it - we don’t know.
4 are you not being very pessimistic about opening your own club ? Perhaps but I like other owners are trying to be realistic & finding risk mitigating ways by which we can prepare & protect our business, staff, customers
Thanks for you messages & questions. I will give me best guesses or work with the official information to hand to answer where I can xx B
why would clubs have to keep your data and be responsible for track and trace? nowhere else that people mix have to do this ... no supermarket, retail store is retaining data on its users "
Clubs will be classed as gyms or members establishments, where close proximity to others - over a sustained amount of time is the NORM. way the business functions. It’s not something we wish to do - however it is likely to be one a “legal” requirement. |
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"If I may :- for the foreseeable future “swinging” as we know it should perhaps have the title of “erotic socialising”.
Social distancing even when reduced (if) to 1 metre would have a significant effect on the numbers to be allowed into any every day club - never mind a swingers club.
Social elective play “bubbles” would likely mean a small group ARRIVING & leaving together & being requested to sign a declaration of “no C19 symptoms“ and a waiver to indemnify the club. & possibly a temp check before entry. Those with underlying health issues - well how do we even begin to deal with that ?.
To enable track & trace it is very likely that each individual would have to provide name, address & future contact details at each visit and systematically logged.
In social areas - open areas, Masks would also be required & made mandatory from arrival to departure. So permanent masquerade party time.
Changing rooms would have to be closely monitored as would toilets - showers etc etc. Clubs with smaller facilities may struggle to adopt these “rules”.
Whilst the vast majority of clubs are well maintained - eg anti bacterial Etc - increased frequency & cleaning of “bubble” play rooms.
Jacuzzi’s & sauna faculties could not be used at all. Air conditioning may have issues around use.
& so the concerns & provisions must be considered. All items can be achieved with planning/process & procedures in place, attentive staff & the cooperation of the customers.
So “Erotic Socialising” for want of a better term until such time as a vaccine has be developed & has proven results.
These are just a few of the items that CLUB owners are considering & concerned about at the moment. So please bare with us & hope as we do for the best outcome xx Bruce/Cupids
To answer a couple of pm’s
1 who would be entitled legally to request “track & trace” info ? I/we don’t know.
2 what would this mean under current data protection laws ? I/we don’t know
3 when will you know how clubs - swingers clubs in particular be given regs,rules & specific guidance to protect customers & staff ? You guessed it - we don’t know.
4 are you not being very pessimistic about opening your own club ? Perhaps but I like other owners are trying to be realistic & finding risk mitigating ways by which we can prepare & protect our business, staff, customers
Thanks for you messages & questions. I will give me best guesses or work with the official information to hand to answer where I can xx B
why would clubs have to keep your data and be responsible for track and trace? nowhere else that people mix have to do this ... no supermarket, retail store is retaining data on its users
Clubs will be classed as gyms or members establishments, where close proximity to others - over a sustained amount of time is the NORM. way the business functions. It’s not something we wish to do - however it is likely to be one a “legal” requirement. "
Also consider the recently announced rules & guidelines for when pubs open !!! If they are that stringent for pubs, I - we don’t for-see they will be anymore relaxed for “swingers” clubs. This data collection would make sense as a precaution for everyone visiting a club. Their may be some who would not wish to provide such info & that would of course be their choice.
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"just seems like thats the point of the software thats already been installed on peoples phones
Not everyone can bring their phone to a club !!!! "
I shall leave the conjecture & guessing to the forum. Happy to help via pm’s. Stay safe have fun. X |
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"just seems like thats the point of the software thats already been installed on peoples phones
Not everyone can bring their phone to a club !!!! "
Should any phones be allowed in a swinger club and allowed to
Roam the buildings with them I thought they were all locked away in lockers ? |
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"just seems like thats the point of the software thats already been installed on peoples phones
Not everyone can bring their phone to a club !!!!
Should any phones be allowed in a swinger club and allowed to
Roam the buildings with them I thought they were all locked away in lockers ?"
They are not allowed outside of the changing rooms at Cupids |
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"just seems like thats the point of the software thats already been installed on peoples phones
Not everyone can bring their phone to a club !!!!
Should any phones be allowed in a swinger club and allowed to
Roam the buildings with them I thought they were all locked away in lockers ?"
but if all attendees phones are in the locker room they are all still in the same location as each other for track and trace ...
to be honest i thought in england you already had to give your details to attend because it was members clubs anyway, i just dont see why covid would require additional data was all when you will already he tracked in all your movements anyway |
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"That doesn’t really answer the OP question of what licensing group or category they come under now does it
to be fair the one club owner who took their time to point people in the direction of where that info may be given has basically been chewed out by people (and an op) for pointing people in the direction of where the question may be answered....
they cant win for not knowing.... and i am sure as soon as they know we will know!!!!
it is what it is.... they open when they open!!!
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Sex clubs are same as any club from a licensing perspective (Licensing Act 2003). They could theoretically open like any bar or leisure facility from 4 July. However like every business they will have to have a COVID secure risk assessment demonstrating compliance with govt guidance ( not yet published!). This will inevitably mean ensuring social distancing and other measures, practically I can only imagine them turning into voyeur clubs or something with clearly no playing. Enforcement rests with Local govt EHOs but quite how they will do so is interesting!! But if a club is found to be non compliant they face prohibition, an fpn ( up to £3200) prosecution and also face losing their licence!!
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"just seems like thats the point of the software thats already been installed on peoples phones
Not everyone can bring their phone to a club !!!!
Should any phones be allowed in a swinger club and allowed to
Roam the buildings with them I thought they were all locked away in lockers ?
but if all attendees phones are in the locker room they are all still in the same location as each other for track and trace ...
to be honest i thought in england you already had to give your details to attend because it was members clubs anyway, i just dont see why covid would require additional data was all when you will already he tracked in all your movements anyway "
The point is no one knows - everything is speculation at this point in time. So someone just said “clubs will open when the open” & sadly this is correct. However just my very final point / phones - we would then (as club owners) have to check every ones phone is switched on & the tracking app present. !!!!!!
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"Sex clubs are same as any club from a licensing perspective (Licensing Act 2003). They could theoretically open like any bar or leisure facility from 4 July. However like every business they will have to have a COVID secure risk assessment demonstrating compliance with govt guidance ( not yet published!). This will inevitably mean ensuring social distancing and other measures, practically I can only imagine them turning into voyeur clubs or something with clearly no playing. Enforcement rests with Local govt EHOs but quite how they will do so is interesting!! But if a club is found to be non compliant they face prohibition, an fpn ( up to £3200) prosecution and also face losing their licence!!
Hope this helps"
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"just seems like thats the point of the software thats already been installed on peoples phones
Not everyone can bring their phone to a club !!!!
Should any phones be allowed in a swinger club and allowed to
Roam the buildings with them I thought they were all locked away in lockers ?
but if all attendees phones are in the locker room they are all still in the same location as each other for track and trace ...
to be honest i thought in england you already had to give your details to attend because it was members clubs anyway, i just dont see why covid would require additional data was all when you will already he tracked in all your movements anyway
The point is no one knows - everything is speculation at this point in time. So someone just said “clubs will open when the open” & sadly this is correct. However just my very final point / phones - we would then (as club owners) have to check every ones phone is switched on & the tracking app present. !!!!!!
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dont you realise your post is also speculation as you dont even know that it will be the clubs responsibility to track and trace its customers
no other business that has opened (including golf clubs which are private members clubs) have been given that responsibility... they just have to make sure you are safe while on their premises |
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Councils and emergency planners are currently preparing local outbreak plans for various settings including pubs and clubs. They will have responsibility and the resources to do the contact tracing but will be reliant on the info provided by each premises Which could include provision who was present at a given day and time. They then have powers to require those persons to be tested and self isolate. They have additional powers if necessary to close / lockdown premises or even towns. |
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Councils and emergency planners are currently preparing local outbreak plans for various settings including pubs and clubs. They will have responsibility and the resources to do the contact tracing but will be reliant on the info provided by each premises Which could include provision who was present at a given day and time. They then have powers to require those persons to be tested and self isolate. They have additional powers if necessary to close / lockdown premises or even towns. |
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"just seems like thats the point of the software thats already been installed on peoples phones
Not everyone can bring their phone to a club !!!!
Should any phones be allowed in a swinger club and allowed to
Roam the buildings with them I thought they were all locked away in lockers ?
but if all attendees phones are in the locker room they are all still in the same location as each other for track and trace ...
to be honest i thought in england you already had to give your details to attend because it was members clubs anyway, i just dont see why covid would require additional data was all when you will already he tracked in all your movements anyway
The point is no one knows - everything is speculation at this point in time. So someone just said “clubs will open when the open” & sadly this is correct. However just my very final point / phones - we would then (as club owners) have to check every ones phone is switched on & the tracking app present. !!!!!!
dont you realise your post is also speculation as you dont even know that it will be the clubs responsibility to track and trace its customers
no other business that has opened (including golf clubs which are private members clubs) have been given that responsibility... they just have to make sure you are safe while on their premises"
Ok - Not seen 150 people around any green on a golf course. Other than of course major tournaments lol. I shall now of “course” bend to your superior knowledge & hope I can find my ball in the rough. !!!! |
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i dont get how you linked those comments?
150 people all on the green at the same time would fall under responsibility to keep you safe on the premises... i didn't say clubs wouldn't have to do that
i said you are also making assumptions when you say you will have to start taking additional information that would have to be handed over to an authority for track and trace... those guidelines havent been issued and no other establishment has them in place, not even others members clubs to which you drew comparison ... its a guess same as everyone elses yet you post it claiming to be the voice of clubs bringing sense to everyone elses guesses |
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"i dont get how you linked those comments?
150 people all on the green at the same time would fall under responsibility to keep you safe on the premises... i didn't say clubs wouldn't have to do that
i said you are also making assumptions when you say you will have to start taking additional information that would have to be handed over to an authority for track and trace... those guidelines havent been issued and no other establishment has them in place, not even others members clubs to which you drew comparison ... its a guess same as everyone elses yet you post it claiming to be the voice of clubs bringing sense to everyone elses guesses "
Of course your completely correct in everything you say. !! |
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"Wish the club owners would stop commenting as they know no more then anyone else and they shout everyone else’s opinions down"
Why should club owners not comment? Providing they are posting within site rules they are fully entitled to. Don't forget this is their livelihood not a just a bit of fun. |
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"Wish the club owners would stop commenting as they know no more then anyone else and they shout everyone else’s opinions down"
Why shouldn't Club owners post on the threads? It is their business more than anyone else's!
It is their livelihood and they are in contact with the local council who licence them. It is they who will decide when to open not the Fab forums. |
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"i dont get how you linked those comments?
150 people all on the green at the same time would fall under responsibility to keep you safe on the premises... i didn't say clubs wouldn't have to do that
i said you are also making assumptions when you say you will have to start taking additional information that would have to be handed over to an authority for track and trace... those guidelines havent been issued and no other establishment has them in place, not even others members clubs to which you drew comparison ... its a guess same as everyone elses yet you post it claiming to be the voice of clubs bringing sense to everyone elses guesses
Of course your completely correct in everything you say. !! "
you seem to have once again entirely missed the point of my post
everything you say, everything i say, everything anyone in this thread says is nothing but conjecture because the rules haven't been written yet so nobody knows them ... so no i am not completely correct in what i say, but im not on the thread claiming my ideas will be the future of clubs
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"Because they shout down any opposing opinions "
But nobody else's opinion matters unless everyone on Fab said they were not going to go back to Swinger's Clubs.
They Club owners in consultation with the local council and government guidelines will decide when they can legally reopen.
Unless Boris and his colleagues are on Fab then whatever is said doesn't matter.
Those that support their local Club will do so when they can, those who don't still won't. |
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"Wish the club owners would stop commenting as they know no more then anyone else and they shout everyone else’s opinions down
Why shouldn't Club owners post on the threads? It is their business more than anyone else's!
It is their livelihood and they are in contact with the local council who licence them. It is they who will decide when to open not the Fab forums."
what i find hugely strange is given it is their livelihood, and they don't have any rules to follow yet, they would decide to tell people that without being asked for it they will be collecting additional data to pass to authorities for track and trace when they do open ... knowing fine well a number of their members value privacy, they are actively discouraging them from wanting to return when they reopen (whenever the open date is is irrelevant here) and also suggesting that they speak “on behalf of clubs” meaning also discouraging business from other venues
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As all clubs are in repair renovate and improve mode, hopefully they have time to think about this....
They all have similar legal issues
They all share a common customer base
They all have different ideas and answers to the club owners challenges
So why not unite, form a proper body to represent all clubs, to fight the collective corner. To protect each other, to help each other, the clubs are mostly geographically spaced not to be competitors, Safety in numbers, etc and the body would ensure that retrograde thinking councils can not attack clubs.
In addition membership at one could be, like golf clubs membership at all! Albeit for limited visits per annum. The clubs are set up by individuals in their own style so in reality no real competition just the experience of difference.....pretty much the whole point of swinging....variety lol
So take from this storm clubs.....unite be strong fight the councils that hold back people’s choices! |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
So does anybody have the answer? Seeing as individual clubs are being discouraged from posting their knowlege ?"
Who by? |
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"Wish the club owners would stop commenting as they know no more then anyone else and they shout everyone else’s opinions down
Why shouldn't Club owners post on the threads? It is their business more than anyone else's!
It is their livelihood and they are in contact with the local council who licence them. It is they who will decide when to open not the Fab forums.
what i find hugely strange is given it is their livelihood, and they don't have any rules to follow yet, they would decide to tell people that without being asked for it they will be collecting additional data to pass to authorities for track and trace when they do open ... knowing fine well a number of their members value privacy, they are actively discouraging them from wanting to return when they reopen (whenever the open date is is irrelevant here) and also suggesting that they speak “on behalf of clubs” meaning also discouraging business from other venues
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I agree club owners won't have any input at all in their clubs opening, their biggest issue/hurdle is trying to persuade a licensing authority that their club is safe. This is an impossible task while social distancing is in place. |
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Le Boudoir in London have just added this to their status and sent out emails with the same (but more detailed) message:
"With full COVID preparations in place, we plan to reopen LB with bars / hospitality on 4 July."
So small steps at first, focusing more on the social aspect first (except with own partner)... But it does look like the club scene may be slowly opening up |
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"Wish the club owners would stop commenting as they know no more then anyone else and they shout everyone else’s opinions down
Why shouldn't Club owners post on the threads? It is their business more than anyone else's!
It is their livelihood and they are in contact with the local council who licence them. It is they who will decide when to open not the Fab forums.
what i find hugely strange is given it is their livelihood, and they don't have any rules to follow yet, they would decide to tell people that without being asked for it they will be collecting additional data to pass to authorities for track and trace when they do open ... knowing fine well a number of their members value privacy, they are actively discouraging them from wanting to return when they reopen (whenever the open date is is irrelevant here) and also suggesting that they speak “on behalf of clubs” meaning also discouraging business from other venues
I agree club owners won't have any input at all in their clubs opening, their biggest issue/hurdle is trying to persuade a licensing authority that their club is safe. This is an impossible task while social distancing is in place. "
Actually they will have a say though as their businesses and will be affected as to weather or not once the Feds say they can open if it’s financially viable to them or not. Let’s just get in the real world and realise just what pressure their under financial and otherwise eh? These are people who put in a bloody lot of hours a week for our enjoyment and I for 1 don’t envy them right now so let’s all get back to being adults in an adult world and stop trying to deduct what might or might not happen? |
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"Wish the club owners would stop commenting as they know no more then anyone else and they shout everyone else’s opinions down
Why shouldn't Club owners post on the threads? It is their business more than anyone else's!
It is their livelihood and they are in contact with the local council who licence them. It is they who will decide when to open not the Fab forums.
what i find hugely strange is given it is their livelihood, and they don't have any rules to follow yet, they would decide to tell people that without being asked for it they will be collecting additional data to pass to authorities for track and trace when they do open ... knowing fine well a number of their members value privacy, they are actively discouraging them from wanting to return when they reopen (whenever the open date is is irrelevant here) and also suggesting that they speak “on behalf of clubs” meaning also discouraging business from other venues
I agree club owners won't have any input at all in their clubs opening, their biggest issue/hurdle is trying to persuade a licensing authority that their club is safe. This is an impossible task while social distancing is in place.
Actually they will have a say though as their businesses and will be affected as to weather or not once the Feds say they can open if it’s financially viable to them or not. Let’s just get in the real world and realise just what pressure their under financial and otherwise eh? These are people who put in a bloody lot of hours a week for our enjoyment and I for 1 don’t envy them right now so let’s all get back to being adults in an adult world and stop trying to deduct what might or might not happen? "
Just looking at reality
If you look at things as they stand just now.
Shops,transport, pubs, will all have to guarantee distancing procedures. There are standing markers 2 meters apart they are talking about having separation screens dividing tables in bars and reasturants. Tell me how a club would convince a licensing board they can keep people safe. I'm afraid the smart money is on things getting back to normal for swingers clubs is when/if a virus is found |
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"Wish the club owners would stop commenting as they know no more then anyone else and they shout everyone else’s opinions down
Why shouldn't Club owners post on the threads? It is their business more than anyone else's!
It is their livelihood and they are in contact with the local council who licence them. It is they who will decide when to open not the Fab forums.
what i find hugely strange is given it is their livelihood, and they don't have any rules to follow yet, they would decide to tell people that without being asked for it they will be collecting additional data to pass to authorities for track and trace when they do open ... knowing fine well a number of their members value privacy, they are actively discouraging them from wanting to return when they reopen (whenever the open date is is irrelevant here) and also suggesting that they speak “on behalf of clubs” meaning also discouraging business from other venues
I agree club owners won't have any input at all in their clubs opening, their biggest issue/hurdle is trying to persuade a licensing authority that their club is safe. This is an impossible task while social distancing is in place.
Actually they will have a say though as their businesses and will be affected as to weather or not once the Feds say they can open if it’s financially viable to them or not. Let’s just get in the real world and realise just what pressure their under financial and otherwise eh? These are people who put in a bloody lot of hours a week for our enjoyment and I for 1 don’t envy them right now so let’s all get back to being adults in an adult world and stop trying to deduct what might or might not happen?
Just looking at reality
If you look at things as they stand just now.
Shops,transport, pubs, will all have to guarantee distancing procedures. There are standing markers 2 meters apart they are talking about having separation screens dividing tables in bars and reasturants. Tell me how a club would convince a licensing board they can keep people safe. I'm afraid the smart money is on things getting back to normal for swingers clubs is when/if a virus is found"
Try working in retail in England as from last Monday it’s been a free for all with families having day trips out to shopping centres etc, like I say at the end of the day it’s peoples liveleyhoods that we’re talking about so maybe show some compassion and wait for them to update us all after all they are the ones in the know not us |
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Not sure where this 2m rule comes from it's not law it's guidence and hopefully this week we will see a reduction in this advice
The social distancing advice won't remain forever if it did the government would continue to have to bail out every small business where distancing can't be achieved
Inc tattooists gyms sports therapists schools not to mention big companies such as airlines hotels
And before a certain someone comments I haven't mentioned clubs I am commenting on social distancing being relaxed this year
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"Not sure where this 2m rule comes from it's not law it's guidence and hopefully this week we will see a reduction in this advice
The social distancing advice won't remain forever if it did the government would continue to have to bail out every small business where distancing can't be achieved
Inc tattooists gyms sports therapists schools not to mention big companies such as airlines hotels
And before a certain someone comments I haven't mentioned clubs I am commenting on social distancing being relaxed this year
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You mean completely by the end of the year? |
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Would think so
Airport's are aiming to be fully open by July same as hotels
Can't really see any airports coping with distancing rules not with a flight taking off every 4 mins or with fully booked flights taking people on there already booked holidays
Tattooists are hoping to open July too can't get tattoo from 2m away
Swimming baths which are mostly council owned are also waiting on announcements this week |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"Would think so
Airport's are aiming to be fully open by July same as hotels
Can't really see any airports coping with distancing rules not with a flight taking off every 4 mins or with fully booked flights taking people on there already booked holidays
Tattooists are hoping to open July too can't get tattoo from 2m away
Swimming baths which are mostly council owned are also waiting on announcements this week"
So where is the virus going? It's just gonna disappear in 6 months? Only about 5% of the population have been infected and even they may not have developed . This is far from over |
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The virus will be with us for a long time yet but can you really see the government continue to bail out businesses I'm afraid money will win everytime why else did Cheltenham go ahead
As for the figures of how many people have had it no one will know as tests are only just being done we have only heard of the 40 odd thousand people who have sadly died we will never know how many have actually had it mildly or with no symptoms |
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Unfortunately we have been ones that have had to continue to work through all this and in jobs that cannot be done from home
So have been at higher risk throughout
Not all work with have done could be achieved at the 2 m advice you just have to use common sense and limit the exposure time |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately we have been ones that have had to continue to work through all this and in jobs that cannot be done from home
So have been at higher risk throughout
Not all work with have done could be achieved at the 2 m advice you just have to use common sense and limit the exposure time "
Yes all of that is agreed except that the scientist and virologists do know fairly accurately now the percentage of people infected.
The fact is that social distancing across the globe will be in place until a vaccine is successfully administered and/or the virus weakens. If anything, according to the ‘experts’ it’s going to pep up again this winter . Why would social distancing be scrapped with the potential of further and more severe waves ? It would take a miracle for social distancing to be removed across the world before 2022.
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"Unfortunately we have been ones that have had to continue to work through all this and in jobs that cannot be done from home
So have been at higher risk throughout
Not all work with have done could be achieved at the 2 m advice you just have to use common sense and limit the exposure time
Yes all of that is agreed except that the scientist and virologists do know fairly accurately now the percentage of people infected.
The fact is that social distancing across the globe will be in place until a vaccine is successfully administered and/or the virus weakens. If anything, according to the ‘experts’ it’s going to pep up again this winter . Why would social distancing be scrapped with the potential of further and more severe waves ? It would take a miracle for social distancing to be removed across the world before 2022.
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how do they accurately know if they haven't tested us? the people they are testing are from specific high risk sectors or people with symptoms so that cant be representative and has to skew results |
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Social distancing across the globe is already being scrapped
Spain for one is fully open and ready for tourists as are other country's
The UK economy will not survive unless its scrapped before 2022
If people are waiting on a vaccine they will be waiting forever no vaccine was created for sars and the flu vaccine was started in 1974 and even now it doesn't fully work for everyone
We already have a tablet that can help some people who get covid severe
Think this is best we can hope for |
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By *r NeilMan
over a year ago
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" Very soon hopefully
Some people seem to think it will not be until we get a vaccine, “ that may never happen “.
I think it this will be the case.
The big detail in all of this is 'social distancing' and this is impossible at a swingers clubs. Normal nightclubs will struggle to get a licence so what chance does a swingers club have
If the instances of new infections keeps falling then social distancing can be and in my opinion will be ended before a vaccine is found and available to all.
Even if we do get vaccine it won't be available to the majority for a few years.
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the flu jab doesn't even work |
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"Social distancing across the globe is already being scrapped
Spain for one is fully open and ready for tourists as are other country's
The UK economy will not survive unless its scrapped before 2022
If people are waiting on a vaccine they will be waiting forever no vaccine was created for sars and the flu vaccine was started in 1974 and even now it doesn't fully work for everyone
We already have a tablet that can help some people who get covid severe
Think this is best we can hope for "
So you think mass gatherings, ie football, concerts etc will be back in full by the end of 2020? Pubs, for example will be jam packed with no social distancing by xmas?! |
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"Social distancing across the globe is already being scrapped
Spain for one is fully open and ready for tourists as are other country's
The UK economy will not survive unless its scrapped before 2022
If people are waiting on a vaccine they will be waiting forever no vaccine was created for sars and the flu vaccine was started in 1974 and even now it doesn't fully work for everyone
We already have a tablet that can help some people who get covid severe
Think this is best we can hope for "
being open for tourists and scrapping social distance isnt the same thing
there are still rules in place about capacity a venue can be filled to, clubs are still not open , queues for supermarkets and masks on transport |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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" like I say at the end of the day it’s peoples liveleyhoods that we’re talking about so maybe show some compassion and wait for them to update us all after all they are the ones in the know not us"
Talking about what may or may not happen is allowed in this section as it is for club discussion. People who are likely to use the clubs when they open will want to chat as well as some club owners.
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By *tasiaCouple
over a year ago
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again? "
Some will be classed as Pubs, others Spa's, others Nightclubs, others Social Clubs, others naturist camping sites, etc.
If some of hospitality is given the green light shortly then some may open if they put in place all the other government restrictions about to be announced, social distancing, cleaning, screens etc. and sex with others is taken off the agenda for the time being. Prove to Public Health you're not an issue to them at the moment and you'll be allowed to open, the authorities are keen to get as many back to work as possible. However, push the rules and cause an issue...guess what!
Time for some serious common sense in our opinion. |
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Some will be classed as Pubs, others Spa's, others Nightclubs, others Social Clubs, others naturist camping sites, etc.
If some of hospitality is given the green light shortly then some may open if they put in place all the other government restrictions about to be announced, social distancing, cleaning, screens etc. and sex with others is taken off the agenda for the time being. Prove to Public Health you're not an issue to them at the moment and you'll be allowed to open, the authorities are keen to get as many back to work as possible. However, push the rules and cause an issue...guess what!
Time for some serious common sense in our opinion. "
How are you going to convince a licensing board that the swingers club you are opening up is for social purposes only and no sex will take place in this swingers club? |
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Some clubs have licensed bars and out door areas so restrictions can be put into place
They will open up as a standard pub but for like minded people to have drink and a chat about the lifestyle or whatever
Just cause its a swingers club doesn't mean sex has to happen many people still use clubs to socialise and meet others in the scene
Others on the scene may just want to see friends they have made in the scene
Clubs will enforce the no sex rule same as they enforce any other rules such as touching without asking
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By *tasiaCouple
over a year ago
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Some will be classed as Pubs, others Spa's, others Nightclubs, others Social Clubs, others naturist camping sites, etc.
If some of hospitality is given the green light shortly then some may open if they put in place all the other government restrictions about to be announced, social distancing, cleaning, screens etc. and sex with others is taken off the agenda for the time being. Prove to Public Health you're not an issue to them at the moment and you'll be allowed to open, the authorities are keen to get as many back to work as possible. However, push the rules and cause an issue...guess what!
Time for some serious common sense in our opinion.
How are you going to convince a licensing board that the swingers club you are opening up is for social purposes only and no sex will take place in this swingers club? "
Most clubs have already convinced a licencing board of their intentions and credentials...when they obtained their licences to operate in the first place. Now its down to the clubs to implement new rules to ensure they don't loose their hard fought for licences! And of course, their guests who can assist. |
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I'm sure in a club as large as _tasia social distancing can be achieved
Playrooms are separate so could be locked off so only socialising happens
We look forward to a visit just to see old friends an have a chat n a drink, ?? |
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"Some clubs have licensed bars and out door areas so restrictions can be put into place
They will open up as a standard pub but for like minded people to have drink and a chat about the lifestyle or whatever
Just cause its a swingers club doesn't mean sex has to happen many people still use clubs to socialise and meet others in the scene
Others on the scene may just want to see friends they have made in the scene
Clubs will enforce the no sex rule same as they enforce any other rules such as touching without asking
Oh come on !!
Clubs are kept alive by the membership and admission money the single guys pay.
They men pay that in the hope of getting a fuck.
If there is no sex the men wont come.
The clubs wont be kept alive by a few couples "erotically socializing"
You can do that in the pub or at private house meets
No sex = no men = no income
It's a no-brainer.
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By *r NeilMan
over a year ago
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Some will be classed as Pubs, others Spa's, others Nightclubs, others Social Clubs, others naturist camping sites, etc.
If some of hospitality is given the green light shortly then some may open if they put in place all the other government restrictions about to be announced, social distancing, cleaning, screens etc. and sex with others is taken off the agenda for the time being. Prove to Public Health you're not an issue to them at the moment and you'll be allowed to open, the authorities are keen to get as many back to work as possible. However, push the rules and cause an issue...guess what!
Time for some serious common sense in our opinion.
How are you going to convince a licensing board that the swingers club you are opening up is for social purposes only and no sex will take place in this swingers club? "
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Spain has just announced that they will not be opening any nightclubs in 2020 and possibly not even 2021 unless a vaccine or drugs are found to treat Covid . Where does that leave us?! Surely no nightclubs will not open in 2020 and likewise unfortunately with clubs . "
Yes i read the same. The party island of Ibiza wont be opening clubs this year under instructions of the Balearic goverment. |
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Spain has just announced that they will not be opening any nightclubs in 2020 and possibly not even 2021 unless a vaccine or drugs are found to treat Covid . Where does that leave us?! Surely no nightclubs will not open in 2020 and likewise unfortunately with clubs . Yes i read the same. The party island of Ibiza wont be opening clubs this year under instructions of the Balearic goverment."
Spain is being very stringent in its approach, however they are a different country to the UK so they will have thier own specific guidlines.
Does that mean you can still visit Gibraltar as there is a hard border between the two?
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"4th July almost everything is open again.
Are swinging clubs (mostly classed as private members clubs) in the same category as leisure centres?
Basically when are they allowed to open again?
Spain has just announced that they will not be opening any nightclubs in 2020 and possibly not even 2021 unless a vaccine or drugs are found to treat Covid . Where does that leave us?! Surely no nightclubs will not open in 2020 and likewise unfortunately with clubs . Yes i read the same. The party island of Ibiza wont be opening clubs this year under instructions of the Balearic goverment.
Spain is being very stringent in its approach, however they are a different country to the UK so they will have thier own specific guidlines.
Does that mean you can still visit Gibraltar as there is a hard border between the two?
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From 4 July, Gibraltar is exempt from the FCO advice against all non-essential international travel. This is based on the current assessment of COVID-19 risks |
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