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You do realise that when lockdown is lifted, hopefully in a few weeks time, that life ISN'T going to go straight back to the norm of 3 months ago. Pub, restaurants, cinemas, gyms etc will probably not open for months, social distancing will still apply possibly for a year until a vaccine can be given to the majority of the population.
So no, it is incredibly unlikely clubs will open anytime soon. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I believe (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) the government have already said that after the stricter lockdown measures are removed, that we will still have to practise social distancing for quite some time.
Which does make sense. But it means that clubs, pubs and other social places probably won't be opening for quite some time. |
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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago
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"Looks like we can all forget clubs for this year after what Chris Whitty chief medical officer for England said yesterday !!!!
I concur x"
It's pretty crap for club owners like yourselves 
I hope the govt put together some kind of package to see you through the next few months. |
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over a year ago
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"Looks like we can all forget clubs for this year after what Chris Whitty chief medical officer for England said yesterday !!!!
I concur x
It's pretty crap for club owners like yourselves
I hope the govt put together some kind of package to see you through the next few months."
Highly unlikely that clubs / pubs / cinemas etc will be open until Sept/Oct & that’s a long shot. Going to be a long journey for the club owners. X |
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By *j48Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
I'd suggest No with a capital N.
Clubs will be able to reopen when either there is a vaccine which will never be found (it's a virus so it mutates) or when it magically dissapears on its own and we all forget about it as its not in the news anymore but the political tension with China is |
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"Looks like we can all forget clubs for this year after what Chris Whitty chief medical officer for England said yesterday !!!!"
not good news for the Clubs or the people that rely on them... I for one will be through the doors the day they do reopen x
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Yet another feed on clubs an how bad they will be
Yet plenty on here can't wait to get private parties flowing again or even just meets can't see how they differ from clubs or pubs
Nobody knows who has it who carries it so even a one off meet could pass it
What do people wanna do remain isolated from others including loved ones and live their lives afraid of what may be or may not
Even if a vacine is found it may only reduce the effects of it and people with underlying conditions could still die
Hospitals are nowhere near full of corona patients and even patients that have gone in with other issues aren't tested so are classed as corona patients
People are dying of normal day to day issues such as heart attack cancer but they are still placed on the corona death list because of lack of testing and no post mortem
What people should be looking at is the amount who have recovered and even then its debatable if they had it as no tests are done
Other way of looking at it is everyone has social distanced for over a month now n figures aren't changing so How's that work
Plus don't get started on people looking forward to jumping into an over packed tin can that recirculates its air supply so they can jet off on their holidays
In short let's just all stay in never socialise again let the country and economy decline and businesses close and all live a soletary existence and die of something else  |
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"Yet another feed on clubs an how bad they will be
Yet plenty on here can't wait to get private parties flowing again or even just meets can't see how they differ from clubs or pubs
Nobody knows who has it who carries it so even a one off meet could pass it
What do people wanna do remain isolated from others including loved ones and live their lives afraid of what may be or may not
Even if a vacine is found it may only reduce the effects of it and people with underlying conditions could still die
Hospitals are nowhere near full of corona patients and even patients that have gone in with other issues aren't tested so are classed as corona patients
People are dying of normal day to day issues such as heart attack cancer but they are still placed on the corona death list because of lack of testing and no post mortem
What people should be looking at is the amount who have recovered and even then its debatable if they had it as no tests are done
Other way of looking at it is everyone has social distanced for over a month now n figures aren't changing so How's that work
Plus don't get started on people looking forward to jumping into an over packed tin can that recirculates its air supply so they can jet off on their holidays
In short let's just all stay in never socialise again let the country and economy decline and businesses close and all live a soletary existence and die of something else "
I cannot for the life of me work out if you are for or against the clubs re opening  You seem to have full argued both sides in one comment |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Life as we knew it , won’t be the same for a long long time , this won’t just go away we will have a second wave etc , more and more people are going about life as if this don’t exist anymore , roads are getting more and more busy , it will mean lockdown will go on for ages yet |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Wondering if clubs be open stright when lockdwn is over"
Irrespective of the lockdown - the virus has got to defeated before there is any hope of normality returning to regular life.
I personally think that a huge percentage of people are going to be damaged mentally by this situation and remain so for a very long time - especially if the social distancing requirement continues for a while.
How can it be possible to be avoiding people by 2 metres for months on end and then suddenly think that mass gatherings and intimate encounters with naked strangers will be ok?
I truly feel sorry for (Swinger) Club Owners just now as I cannot for the life of me imagine that kind of lifestyle becoming “fun” again at anytime in the short to mid-term. Worse - we know people who we would class as friends who are Club owners and I really for them and how they are going to get through this. |
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"Yet another feed on clubs an how bad they will be
Yet plenty on here can't wait to get private parties flowing again or even just meets can't see how they differ from clubs or pubs
Nobody knows who has it who carries it so even a one off meet could pass it
What do people wanna do remain isolated from others including loved ones and live their lives afraid of what may be or may not
Even if a vacine is found it may only reduce the effects of it and people with underlying conditions could still die
Hospitals are nowhere near full of corona patients and even patients that have gone in with other issues aren't tested so are classed as corona patients
People are dying of normal day to day issues such as heart attack cancer but they are still placed on the corona death list because of lack of testing and no post mortem
What people should be looking at is the amount who have recovered and even then its debatable if they had it as no tests are done
Other way of looking at it is everyone has social distanced for over a month now n figures aren't changing so How's that work
Plus don't get started on people looking forward to jumping into an over packed tin can that recirculates its air supply so they can jet off on their holidays
In short let's just all stay in never socialise again let the country and economy decline and businesses close and all live a soletary existence and die of something else
I cannot for the life of me work out if you are for or against the clubs re opening You seem to have full argued both sides in one comment "
We enjoy the club scene even for just socials but just think a lot of people are being hypocrites
Or are just against clubs
Lots are saying clubs shouldn't reopen but think meets with others will be OK or private parties but just as easy to contract the virus in either instance as not everyone shows symptoms
We are ones that have had to continue to work during this time so have been at higher risk from the start life's to short as it is to carry on the way it is in isolation from others only to die another way on our first day outta lock down
We want pubs back back open we want to go on holiday we want to socialise and yes agree it would be better and safer for all if there was a vaccine but can't see that for a couple of years yet and it may only reduce the symptoms as with the flu jab
But for us social distancing isn't working the death rates still remain the same or higher and we will continue to do as goverment says and we will continue to work along side others
But as soon as they allow pubs restaurants and clubs to open we will go out an not waste what life we have worrying how we are are gonna die
Other countries are out of lock down now and are managing so can't see why UK can't do the same
Most people who comment on club reopenings are anti club any way and will continue to have house parties or meets outside a club thinking its safer but in reality it's no different to being in a club it only takes 1 unknowing person to have the virus or be carrying the virus and the others will catch it
And as for single guys we are still getting meet offers now
At the end of lock down it will be upto everyone to make a choice of to remain social distances or to carry on back to how things were before which most people who work will probably have to do
As will people who have holidays booked they will have to choose fly or lose there payments cause sorry people life and the world will go on
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
Before the lockdown places like Kestrels spa and Rios spa you just turned up paid your entrance fee and went in and enjoyed the facilities and if anything else happened it was between consenting adults. I am wondering once lockdown ends with regards to these places if there is social distancing in place will you have to book your attendance. I am guessing it could also be the same for some clubs as well. |
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Firstly we are not anti club, 99% of our swinger life is in clubs. If they don't re-open it could spell the end of swinging for us. Even if we did change to private meets (which I doubt) they would be very few and far between.
However I really don't see swinger clubs opening at all this summer and it is (at best) doubtful for the autumn.
As restrictions are eased it is looking like restaurants will be the first to open in this sector, but even they will have quite severe limits on numbers and distancing.
Pubs and bars will probably come back a while later but again with severe limits and distancing. And there lies the problem for swinger clubs. Limits and distancing.
All swinger clubs (in pretty much every country) are licenced by their local authority who know what goes on inside. How on earth could they allow something to open which by its very nature would break the rules?
And let's face it, even if they do open and obey the rules, who on earth would want to go to a swinger club and keep themselves 2 metres apart?
Sorry to be pessimistic but I just cannot see any way (barring some miracle of biblical proportions) that swinger clubs will re-open in any country this year. |
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"Yet another feed on clubs an how bad they will be
Yet plenty on here can't wait to get private parties flowing again or even just meets can't see how they differ from clubs or pubs
Nobody knows who has it who carries it so even a one off meet could pass it
What do people wanna do remain isolated from others including loved ones and live their lives afraid of what may be or may not
Even if a vacine is found it may only reduce the effects of it and people with underlying conditions could still die
Hospitals are nowhere near full of corona patients and even patients that have gone in with other issues aren't tested so are classed as corona patients
People are dying of normal day to day issues such as heart attack cancer but they are still placed on the corona death list because of lack of testing and no post mortem
What people should be looking at is the amount who have recovered and even then its debatable if they had it as no tests are done
Other way of looking at it is everyone has social distanced for over a month now n figures aren't changing so How's that work
Plus don't get started on people looking forward to jumping into an over packed tin can that recirculates its air supply so they can jet off on their holidays
In short let's just all stay in never socialise again let the country and economy decline and businesses close and all live a soletary existence and die of something else
I cannot for the life of me work out if you are for or against the clubs re opening You seem to have full argued both sides in one comment
We enjoy the club scene even for just socials but just think a lot of people are being hypocrites
Or are just against clubs
Lots are saying clubs shouldn't reopen but think meets with others will be OK or private parties but just as easy to contract the virus in either instance as not everyone shows symptoms
We are ones that have had to continue to work during this time so have been at higher risk from the start life's to short as it is to carry on the way it is in isolation from others only to die another way on our first day outta lock down
We want pubs back back open we want to go on holiday we want to socialise and yes agree it would be better and safer for all if there was a vaccine but can't see that for a couple of years yet and it may only reduce the symptoms as with the flu jab
But for us social distancing isn't working the death rates still remain the same or higher and we will continue to do as goverment says and we will continue to work along side others
But as soon as they allow pubs restaurants and clubs to open we will go out an not waste what life we have worrying how we are are gonna die
Other countries are out of lock down now and are managing so can't see why UK can't do the same
Most people who comment on club reopenings are anti club any way and will continue to have house parties or meets outside a club thinking its safer but in reality it's no different to being in a club it only takes 1 unknowing person to have the virus or be carrying the virus and the others will catch it
And as for single guys we are still getting meet offers now
At the end of lock down it will be upto everyone to make a choice of to remain social distances or to carry on back to how things were before which most people who work will probably have to do
As will people who have holidays booked they will have to choose fly or lose there payments cause sorry people life and the world will go on
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No, it will be a long time before they do, if ever in many if not all cases.
This episode will more than likely see the biggest and most sudden change in people’s social behaviour and business activities in history.
Worded of it is you do t be able to tell future generations about the good old days when it comes to dirty sex age ventures lol |
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All anyone can do at the moment is guess what will happen but MY guess is that IF the number of new infections & deaths continue to fall, there will be an easing of lockdown towards the end on May. This could include allowing most people back to work followed by re-opening schools & colleges. All being well, pubs, clubs and eateries COULD follow by the end of June.
But that's just my guess. Currently, the infection rate is still around 5000 new cases per day and 700+ deaths. These figure need to get MUCH lower first.
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"No, it will be a long time before they do, if ever in many if not all cases.
This episode will more than likely see the biggest and most sudden change in people’s social behaviour and business activities in history.
Worded of it is you do t be able to tell future generations about the good old days when it comes to dirty sex age ventures lol"
Thank god I kept a diary.  |
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So sorry, people to introduce a minority opinion, but the reopening of clubs/pubs/restaurants is surely not the main issue, important though the return of social intercourse certainly is...
The overriding issue is the restarting of the whole damn Economy sooner rather than later: no economic activity equals no tax receipts; without tax income, how does the country pay for the NHS, Education, National Defence and every other service funded hitherto by the taxpayer?
As if that weren't enough to scare us all into rationality, there is the frightening prospect of vast swathes of the economy being bought up on the cheap (as Company asset values fall off a cliff) by rather unfriendly powers, whose concept of freedom is somewhat different from ours
In comparison, the future of our favourite club is of no relevance! |
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Given some the more negative forecasts & discussions above & those that REMAIN on FAB (notably still looking for future private meets).
WHY are you so concerned that clubs survive or don’t survive. Especially those contributors that don’t appear to have ever visited one !!! Or have the intention to do so.
The vast majority of the club owners simply don’t know when, where, what & how the club landscape will look in the coming months. We won’t open if we thought we would place anyone at a higher risk than risk than a pub/restaurant/aeroplane/call centre/football match etc etc. This is for the medical profession & government to decide in due course.
Uncertain times & one would have a crystal ball to predict the future from ALL aspects of our society & day to day lives. Everyone one is affected across the globe. Certainly the survival of small businesses, such as clubs is not critically important. However small businesses employ 35/40 % (aprox) of the UK’s workforce.
For those that support their local club/s & are positive for their future re-opening a big thank you xx |
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It’s a world of unknowns at the moment and speculation is merely that - speculation.
Our own point of speculation on the matter we are all facing and dealing with is as follows:
Lockdown measures relaxed/removed (whenever that may be) - social distancing will still be the guidance in all types of establishments and places (shopping, parks, transport hubs, etc) and while social distancing measures are around we cannot see how any venue (be it a pub, nightclub, swingersclub, concert, cinema, etc) can possibly function while adhering to these measures, therefore I can see that pubs and the such will not be permitted to trade immediately.
There is also the possibility that once lockdown measures start to be relaxed they may reinstate them if we see a sudden spike in Covid-19 case.
As we said, everything is speculation for now, none of us know anything (regardless of what the Sun or Mirror etc may say) and we highly doubt that the powers that be truly know what they are going to do just yet.
Worrying times for the clubs - yes! We would love for this to suddenly disappear and be able to go back to club nights with fun and laughter just as much as anyone else here, but do feel it’s quite a long way off.
We hope the clubs survive this, and for all those who are members of whichever clubs you choose please support them in their re-opening... also all those who would like to visit a club, once things truly are “back to normal” and we are all seemingly safe then would be the time to visit and support the clubs that have survived this difficult time.  |
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"Yet another feed on clubs an how bad they will be
Yet plenty on here can't wait to get private parties flowing again or even just meets can't see how they differ from clubs or pubs
Nobody knows who has it who carries it so even a one off meet could pass it
What do people wanna do remain isolated from others including loved ones and live their lives afraid of what may be or may not
Even if a vacine is found it may only reduce the effects of it and people with underlying conditions could still die
Hospitals are nowhere near full of corona patients and even patients that have gone in with other issues aren't tested so are classed as corona patients
People are dying of normal day to day issues such as heart attack cancer but they are still placed on the corona death list because of lack of testing and no post mortem
What people should be looking at is the amount who have recovered and even then its debatable if they had it as no tests are done
Other way of looking at it is everyone has social distanced for over a month now n figures aren't changing so How's that work
Plus don't get started on people looking forward to jumping into an over packed tin can that recirculates its air supply so they can jet off on their holidays
In short let's just all stay in never socialise again let the country and economy decline and businesses close and all live a soletary existence and die of something else "
Agree with you life is a risk if you actually stay in doors that’s a risk loads of accidents in homes |
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" Given some the more negative forecasts & discussions above & those that REMAIN on FAB (notably still looking for future private meets).
WHY are you so concerned that clubs survive or don’t survive. Especially those contributors that don’t appear to have ever visited one !!! Or have the intention to do so.
The vast majority of the club owners simply don’t know when, where, what & how the club landscape will look in the coming months. We won’t open if we thought we would place anyone at a higher risk than risk than a pub/restaurant/aeroplane/call centre/football match etc etc. This is for the medical profession & government to decide in due course.
Uncertain times & one would have a crystal ball to predict the future from ALL aspects of our society & day to day lives. Everyone one is affected across the globe. Certainly the survival of small businesses, such as clubs is not critically important. However small businesses employ 35/40 % (aprox) of the UK’s workforce.
For those that support their local club/s & are positive for their future re-opening a big thank you xx"
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It's looking like sex based clubs are out of the equation for the foreseeable future. I'd guess at early part of next year but I wouldn't put money on it. |
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"Looks like we can all forget clubs for this year after what Chris Whitty chief medical officer for England said yesterday !!!!not good news for the Clubs or the people that rely on them... I for one will be through the doors the day they do reopen x "
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"It's looking like sex based clubs are out of the equation for the foreseeable future. I'd guess at early part of next year but I wouldn't put money on it."
which I am finding utterly devastating news to deal with if I'm honest. I'm struggling with out them a lot
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I can't believe those of you who are desperate to get back to clubs, I can't think of a more risky place right now! It would be impossible to keep them clean with all of the close contact and exchange of bodily fluids that goes on there.
People of all ages have died of this and you have no way of knowing whether you would be one of those unlucky ones. I'm not even contemplating meeting until there is a vaccine for this thing, which looks like a long way off! Is it really such a great sacrifice to make for now? |
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"I can't believe those of you who are desperate to get back to clubs, I can't think of a more risky place right now! It would be impossible to keep them clean with all of the close contact and exchange of bodily fluids that goes on there.
People of all ages have died of this and you have no way of knowing whether you would be one of those unlucky ones. I'm not even contemplating meeting until there is a vaccine for this thing, which looks like a long way off! Is it really such a great sacrifice to make for now?"
Okay im not saying open the clubs ... but just some thoughts on your post
But you know this is a respiratory virus not a sexually transmitted one... bodily fluids don’t come into it ... having sex with someone will be no more (actually much less) risky than kissing them
So should single people just stop dating entirely until there is a vaccine? What if there never is a vaccine ... do we just settle for a life with no human contact because that sounds like a very sad life to me |
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"I can't believe those of you who are desperate to get back to clubs, I can't think of a more risky place right now! It would be impossible to keep them clean with all of the close contact and exchange of bodily fluids that goes on there.
People of all ages have died of this and you have no way of knowing whether you would be one of those unlucky ones. I'm not even contemplating meeting until there is a vaccine for this thing, which looks like a long way off! Is it really such a great sacrifice to make for now?
Okay im not saying open the clubs ... but just some thoughts on your post
But you know this is a respiratory virus not a sexually transmitted one... bodily fluids don’t come into it ... having sex with someone will be no more (actually much less) risky than kissing them
So should single people just stop dating entirely until there is a vaccine? What if there never is a vaccine ... do we just settle for a life with no human contact because that sounds like a very sad life to me "
You are quite right that it's not an sti and is respiratory. I'm sure you'll accept that having sex tends to involve being up close and personal with the other person or persons that you are having sex with not to mention the use of one's hands. And it's generally accepted that both you and the other person/s are normally breathing and it's also possible that they or you might sneeze and or cough without warning. All three of these activities could quite easily transmit the virus to or from you and then on through anyone else you come into contact with. Close contact equals transmission it's that simple. Once there is a vaccine that works and we are all safe life can get back to normal until that point then it's Russian roulette. |
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"I can't believe those of you who are desperate to get back to clubs, I can't think of a more risky place right now! It would be impossible to keep them clean with all of the close contact and exchange of bodily fluids that goes on there.
People of all ages have died of this and you have no way of knowing whether you would be one of those unlucky ones. I'm not even contemplating meeting until there is a vaccine for this thing, which looks like a long way off! Is it really such a great sacrifice to make for now?"
Perhaps you could volunteer to trial the vaccine as there after volunteers
Might take 12 months of trials and a few deaths from vaccine or leave you with something else caused by secondary side effects but least you would be doing your bit |
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"I won’t be having any vaccine so what happens to people who don’t vaccinate ..... doomed to a life of self isolation.... "
You simply find someone who shares your point of view. There are plenty of people on here who would meet today. |
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"Very unlikely as the will be classed the same as bars and restaurants, thus opening last OP. "
I don't think sex clubs will be classed the same as pubs and restaurants, unless they are purely social and physical contact is banned and social distancing is observeded by all attendees be they single or couples. Of course these kind of measures are completely unrealistic which is why clubs won't be opening any time soon. |
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Again another negative club response
So is everyone going to remain in isolation when things start opening up again
Are people gonna go on the holidays they have paid for using the crowded flights
Are swingers not gonna go to or have house parties or meets
Are workers gonna expect to be kept metres apart from people they work with
Clubs pubs restraunts and others will need to reopen or the economy and the people that work or own these places will all need to be supported longer or unemployment will happen this will have a knock-on effect on other businesses such as clothing stores and food stores not to mention NHS
As more unemployment means less tax being paid to the pot
Everyone says clubs should be the last place to open yet its an individuals choice to attend or play as is having a house party or an arranged meet so why dis the clubs I'm sure they will do everything they can to ensure safety for people in them
Owners an staff are no different to other pubs an restaurants they need to work to earn
Even larger companies will struggle at the end of this and many will be sold off
So while the social distancing is keeping us all safer some of us may be coming out of it without a job or working for a company who has been bought out by a foreign country
Loss of jobs causes many problems one being mental health issues depression and suicides so think of that before saying things shouldn't reopen
We are all adults an nobody is forcing any one to visit a club pub or anything else they don't want to but think of the owners an thier families too they need to survive
No body is judging the people who will meet outside of these places
Everyone who isn't working through this that's great but some of us haven't had that luxury so sit at home get on ur soap boxes tell everyone what they should or shouldnt do an stay safe while the rest of us continue to work to supply you with the things needed to make your life easy
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"Yet another feed on clubs an how bad they will be
Yet plenty on here can't wait to get private parties flowing again or even just meets can't see how they differ from clubs or pubs
Nobody knows who has it who carries it so even a one off meet could pass it
What do people wanna do remain isolated from others including loved ones and live their lives afraid of what may be or may not
Even if a vacine is found it may only reduce the effects of it and people with underlying conditions could still die
Hospitals are nowhere near full of corona patients and even patients that have gone in with other issues aren't tested so are classed as corona patients
People are dying of normal day to day issues such as heart attack cancer but they are still placed on the corona death list because of lack of testing and no post mortem
What people should be looking at is the amount who have recovered and even then its debatable if they had it as no tests are done
Other way of looking at it is everyone has social distanced for over a month now n figures aren't changing so How's that work
Plus don't get started on people looking forward to jumping into an over packed tin can that recirculates its air supply so they can jet off on their holidays
In short let's just all stay in never socialise again let the country and economy decline and businesses close and all live a soletary existence and die of something else "
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"Again another negative club response
So is everyone going to remain in isolation when things start opening up again
Are people gonna go on the holidays they have paid for using the crowded flights
Are swingers not gonna go to or have house parties or meets
Are workers gonna expect to be kept metres apart from people they work with
Clubs pubs restraunts and others will need to reopen or the economy and the people that work or own these places will all need to be supported longer or unemployment will happen this will have a knock-on effect on other businesses such as clothing stores and food stores not to mention NHS
As more unemployment means less tax being paid to the pot
Everyone says clubs should be the last place to open yet its an individuals choice to attend or play as is having a house party or an arranged meet so why dis the clubs I'm sure they will do everything they can to ensure safety for people in them
Owners an staff are no different to other pubs an restaurants they need to work to earn
Even larger companies will struggle at the end of this and many will be sold off
So while the social distancing is keeping us all safer some of us may be coming out of it without a job or working for a company who has been bought out by a foreign country
Loss of jobs causes many problems one being mental health issues depression and suicides so think of that before saying things shouldn't reopen
We are all adults an nobody is forcing any one to visit a club pub or anything else they don't want to but think of the owners an thier families too they need to survive
No body is judging the people who will meet outside of these places
Everyone who isn't working through this that's great but some of us haven't had that luxury so sit at home get on ur soap boxes tell everyone what they should or shouldnt do an stay safe while the rest of us continue to work to supply you with the things needed to make your life easy
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"Again another negative club response
So is everyone going to remain in isolation when things start opening up again
Are people gonna go on the holidays they have paid for using the crowded flights
Are swingers not gonna go to or have house parties or meets
Are workers gonna expect to be kept metres apart from people they work with
Clubs pubs restraunts and others will need to reopen or the economy and the people that work or own these places will all need to be supported longer or unemployment will happen this will have a knock-on effect on other businesses such as clothing stores and food stores not to mention NHS
As more unemployment means less tax being paid to the pot
Everyone says clubs should be the last place to open yet its an individuals choice to attend or play as is having a house party or an arranged meet so why dis the clubs I'm sure they will do everything they can to ensure safety for people in them
Owners an staff are no different to other pubs an restaurants they need to work to earn
Even larger companies will struggle at the end of this and many will be sold off
So while the social distancing is keeping us all safer some of us may be coming out of it without a job or working for a company who has been bought out by a foreign country
Loss of jobs causes many problems one being mental health issues depression and suicides so think of that before saying things shouldn't reopen
We are all adults an nobody is forcing any one to visit a club pub or anything else they don't want to but think of the owners an thier families too they need to survive
No body is judging the people who will meet outside of these places
Everyone who isn't working through this that's great but some of us haven't had that luxury so sit at home get on ur soap boxes tell everyone what they should or shouldnt do an stay safe while the rest of us continue to work to supply you with the things needed to make your life easy
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There is a big difference between what economics and health. Of course there will be a balance but it quite obvious that sex club will be very low on the list of places that reopen. It's not negative it's just the way it's likely to be and that's called realism. |
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By *u4rFunMan
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Lots of interesting points raised , but here my views . I personally can’t wait for everywhere to re-open ! But sadly it’s not going to be in the near future. So I personally hope the owners of clubs can financially stay strong with government grants etc . NHS what a unbelievably fantastic job they doing , so proud to say it’s the finest institution of its kind in the world . Also people use there own judgment if they wish to meet privately at house parties and hopefully stay safe ( consulting adults after all ) If and when the government produce a vaccine hopefully this will control the strain of corona but has other strains re-produce we be more adapted to deal and hopefully restrain the new mutant strains . But I believe we haven’t peaked yet like the government are saying , so I say use your own judgment and stay safe every one . In this world today , who knows who’s right or wrong ! |
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"I can't believe those of you who are desperate to get back to clubs, I can't think of a more risky place right now! It would be impossible to keep them clean with all of the close contact and exchange of bodily fluids that goes on there.
People of all ages have died of this and you have no way of knowing whether you would be one of those unlucky ones. I'm not even contemplating meeting until there is a vaccine for this thing, which looks like a long way off! Is it really such a great sacrifice to make for now?
Okay im not saying open the clubs ... but just some thoughts on your post
But you know this is a respiratory virus not a sexually transmitted one... bodily fluids don’t come into it ... having sex with someone will be no more (actually much less) risky than kissing them
So should single people just stop dating entirely until there is a vaccine? What if there never is a vaccine ... do we just settle for a life with no human contact because that sounds like a very sad life to me
You are quite right that it's not an sti and is respiratory. I'm sure you'll accept that having sex tends to involve being up close and personal with the other person or persons that you are having sex with not to mention the use of one's hands. And it's generally accepted that both you and the other person/s are normally breathing and it's also possible that they or you might sneeze and or cough without warning. All three of these activities could quite easily transmit the virus to or from you and then on through anyone else you come into contact with. Close contact equals transmission it's that simple. Once there is a vaccine that works and we are all safe life can get back to normal until that point then it's Russian roulette. "
So my point was you seem to think that people should be having sex because of the risk , but all those things you mentioned are just as risky kissing
If you are in a couple and your partner is key working, should you stop kissing? If you are single should you just not date an remain completely alone til the arrival of a vaccine that might never come? Or once its deemed safe enough for people to be around others in public again should things be able to some what get back to normal |
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"Again another negative club response
So is everyone going to remain in isolation when things start opening up again
Are people gonna go on the holidays they have paid for using the crowded flights
Are swingers not gonna go to or have house parties or meets
Are workers gonna expect to be kept metres apart from people they work with
Clubs pubs restraunts and others will need to reopen or the economy and the people that work or own these places will all need to be supported longer or unemployment will happen this will have a knock-on effect on other businesses such as clothing stores and food stores not to mention NHS
As more unemployment means less tax being paid to the pot
Everyone says clubs should be the last place to open yet its an individuals choice to attend or play as is having a house party or an arranged meet so why dis the clubs I'm sure they will do everything they can to ensure safety for people in them
Owners an staff are no different to other pubs an restaurants they need to work to earn
Even larger companies will struggle at the end of this and many will be sold off
So while the social distancing is keeping us all safer some of us may be coming out of it without a job or working for a company who has been bought out by a foreign country
Loss of jobs causes many problems one being mental health issues depression and suicides so think of that before saying things shouldn't reopen
We are all adults an nobody is forcing any one to visit a club pub or anything else they don't want to but think of the owners an thier families too they need to survive
No body is judging the people who will meet outside of these places
Everyone who isn't working through this that's great but some of us haven't had that luxury so sit at home get on ur soap boxes tell everyone what they should or shouldnt do an stay safe while the rest of us continue to work to supply you with the things needed to make your life easy
There is a big difference between what economics and health. Of course there will be a balance but it quite obvious that sex club will be very low on the list of places that reopen. It's not negative it's just the way it's likely to be and that's called realism."
No difference at all if people lose thier jobs then thier health suffers same as club owners and workers are probably stressing over how to continue to pay bills and put food on their table
Being isolated from family and friends affects people emotionally so does not being able to say goodbye to a loved one who has died from it
People will need a release at the end of it all like pubs restraunts cinemas and for the swing community meets and socials all these will raise the risk of catching it or coming into contact with someone who not knowingly has it
Same as jetting off to our places abroad sitting in planes with recirculating air after all its not caught from sex its caught from sneezes and coughing which can happen anywhere including work places of which many are reopening this week
People are saying they will meet or have house parties but won't go to clubs are they gonna vet and test every individual that they meet doubt it
Like said some of us haven't been able to isolate ourselves due to our jobs so everyday our lives are at higher risk working with others and others that have had to use public transport so should we all say no to going into work an think of ourselves and watch the country come to a standstill
No electric no gas no sewage works prisons closing no hospitals no food shops sadly we can't we have to get on with it and continue to supply the needs of others whilst risking ourselves that's how economy and health is related
We feel for the pub owners and club owners or restraunts as people will be afraid for a longtime as will the owners as they will be risking spreading to their family n friends when they are allowed to reopen
It's life and life goes on we all want to remain safe and economically sound for our futures but things will happen and we will all have choices to make
Personally mixing with others all through this we will be wanting our nights out at the local pub and our holidays abroad it makes you realise life is too short to lock ourselves away worrying what may be you never know what's around the corner
We could isolate for the next 12 months to avoid getting the virus to be told we have heart disease or cancer if your times up its up no matter how you try and avoid it
People need to try and support smaller business's during this time not boycott them or they won't be there when we need them |
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"Again another negative club response
So is everyone going to remain in isolation when things start opening up again
Are people gonna go on the holidays they have paid for using the crowded flights
Are swingers not gonna go to or have house parties or meets
Are workers gonna expect to be kept metres apart from people they work with
Clubs pubs restraunts and others will need to reopen or the economy and the people that work or own these places will all need to be supported longer or unemployment will happen this will have a knock-on effect on other businesses such as clothing stores and food stores not to mention NHS
As more unemployment means less tax being paid to the pot
Everyone says clubs should be the last place to open yet its an individuals choice to attend or play as is having a house party or an arranged meet so why dis the clubs I'm sure they will do everything they can to ensure safety for people in them
Owners an staff are no different to other pubs an restaurants they need to work to earn
Even larger companies will struggle at the end of this and many will be sold off
So while the social distancing is keeping us all safer some of us may be coming out of it without a job or working for a company who has been bought out by a foreign country
Loss of jobs causes many problems one being mental health issues depression and suicides so think of that before saying things shouldn't reopen
We are all adults an nobody is forcing any one to visit a club pub or anything else they don't want to but think of the owners an thier families too they need to survive
No body is judging the people who will meet outside of these places
Everyone who isn't working through this that's great but some of us haven't had that luxury so sit at home get on ur soap boxes tell everyone what they should or shouldnt do an stay safe while the rest of us continue to work to supply you with the things needed to make your life easy
There is a big difference between what economics and health. Of course there will be a balance but it quite obvious that sex club will be very low on the list of places that reopen. It's not negative it's just the way it's likely to be and that's called realism.
No difference at all if people lose thier jobs then thier health suffers same as club owners and workers are probably stressing over how to continue to pay bills and put food on their table
Being isolated from family and friends affects people emotionally so does not being able to say goodbye to a loved one who has died from it
People will need a release at the end of it all like pubs restraunts cinemas and for the swing community meets and socials all these will raise the risk of catching it or coming into contact with someone who not knowingly has it
Same as jetting off to our places abroad sitting in planes with recirculating air after all its not caught from sex its caught from sneezes and coughing which can happen anywhere including work places of which many are reopening this week
People are saying they will meet or have house parties but won't go to clubs are they gonna vet and test every individual that they meet doubt it
Like said some of us haven't been able to isolate ourselves due to our jobs so everyday our lives are at higher risk working with others and others that have had to use public transport so should we all say no to going into work an think of ourselves and watch the country come to a standstill
No electric no gas no sewage works prisons closing no hospitals no food shops sadly we can't we have to get on with it and continue to supply the needs of others whilst risking ourselves that's how economy and health is related
We feel for the pub owners and club owners or restraunts as people will be afraid for a longtime as will the owners as they will be risking spreading to their family n friends when they are allowed to reopen
It's life and life goes on we all want to remain safe and economically sound for our futures but things will happen and we will all have choices to make
Personally mixing with others all through this we will be wanting our nights out at the local pub and our holidays abroad it makes you realise life is too short to lock ourselves away worrying what may be you never know what's around the corner
We could isolate for the next 12 months to avoid getting the virus to be told we have heart disease or cancer if your times up its up no matter how you try and avoid it
People need to try and support smaller business's during this time not boycott them or they won't be there when we need them "
I am reading your post as
“we need to risk ourselves going to work to keep the country moving so why shouldn’t we be able to go to a club and fuck strangers at the weekend when we are at risk anyway”
I might have picked it up wrong but If not, there is a big difference between people needing electric, gas, food, hospitals etc and needing a location to go have sex
If you believe you are already at higher risk so makes no difference, surely you can meet others in the same situation in yours or their home if you so wish - thats your own personal choice
But if you open a club you are asking the staff there to take additional risk for no other reason than your recreation wants ... i dont think those can be put on the same level as food/ shelter/ power / healthcare |
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"Again another negative club response
So is everyone going to remain in isolation when things start opening up again
Are people gonna go on the holidays they have paid for using the crowded flights
Are swingers not gonna go to or have house parties or meets
Are workers gonna expect to be kept metres apart from people they work with
Clubs pubs restraunts and others will need to reopen or the economy and the people that work or own these places will all need to be supported longer or unemployment will happen this will have a knock-on effect on other businesses such as clothing stores and food stores not to mention NHS
As more unemployment means less tax being paid to the pot
Everyone says clubs should be the last place to open yet its an individuals choice to attend or play as is having a house party or an arranged meet so why dis the clubs I'm sure they will do everything they can to ensure safety for people in them
Owners an staff are no different to other pubs an restaurants they need to work to earn
Even larger companies will struggle at the end of this and many will be sold off
So while the social distancing is keeping us all safer some of us may be coming out of it without a job or working for a company who has been bought out by a foreign country
Loss of jobs causes many problems one being mental health issues depression and suicides so think of that before saying things shouldn't reopen
We are all adults an nobody is forcing any one to visit a club pub or anything else they don't want to but think of the owners an thier families too they need to survive
No body is judging the people who will meet outside of these places
Everyone who isn't working through this that's great but some of us haven't had that luxury so sit at home get on ur soap boxes tell everyone what they should or shouldnt do an stay safe while the rest of us continue to work to supply you with the things needed to make your life easy
There is a big difference between what economics and health. Of course there will be a balance but it quite obvious that sex club will be very low on the list of places that reopen. It's not negative it's just the way it's likely to be and that's called realism.
No difference at all if people lose thier jobs then thier health suffers same as club owners and workers are probably stressing over how to continue to pay bills and put food on their table
Being isolated from family and friends affects people emotionally so does not being able to say goodbye to a loved one who has died from it
People will need a release at the end of it all like pubs restraunts cinemas and for the swing community meets and socials all these will raise the risk of catching it or coming into contact with someone who not knowingly has it
Same as jetting off to our places abroad sitting in planes with recirculating air after all its not caught from sex its caught from sneezes and coughing which can happen anywhere including work places of which many are reopening this week
People are saying they will meet or have house parties but won't go to clubs are they gonna vet and test every individual that they meet doubt it
Like said some of us haven't been able to isolate ourselves due to our jobs so everyday our lives are at higher risk working with others and others that have had to use public transport so should we all say no to going into work an think of ourselves and watch the country come to a standstill
No electric no gas no sewage works prisons closing no hospitals no food shops sadly we can't we have to get on with it and continue to supply the needs of others whilst risking ourselves that's how economy and health is related
We feel for the pub owners and club owners or restraunts as people will be afraid for a longtime as will the owners as they will be risking spreading to their family n friends when they are allowed to reopen
It's life and life goes on we all want to remain safe and economically sound for our futures but things will happen and we will all have choices to make
Personally mixing with others all through this we will be wanting our nights out at the local pub and our holidays abroad it makes you realise life is too short to lock ourselves away worrying what may be you never know what's around the corner
We could isolate for the next 12 months to avoid getting the virus to be told we have heart disease or cancer if your times up its up no matter how you try and avoid it
People need to try and support smaller business's during this time not boycott them or they won't be there when we need them
I am reading your post as
“we need to risk ourselves going to work to keep the country moving so why shouldn’t we be able to go to a club and fuck strangers at the weekend when we are at risk anyway”
I might have picked it up wrong but If not, there is a big difference between people needing electric, gas, food, hospitals etc and needing a location to go have sex
If you believe you are already at higher risk so makes no difference, surely you can meet others in the same situation in yours or their home if you so wish - thats your own personal choice
But if you open a club you are asking the staff there to take additional risk for no other reason than your recreation wants ... i dont think those can be put on the same level as food/ shelter/ power / healthcare "
Obviously didn't read it correctly
A club will give same degree of risk as any other normal pub restraunt or social event
Was making a statement that people are saying clubs shouldn't reopen but it will be OK to carry on with meets parties and socialising in pubs etc
Swingers clubs already get enough bad press without putting more on them at the end of the day the people that run them do it for a living same as the rest of us that go to work they too will be struggling to support families and will need the publics help when this is over so why treat them any different to any other social event |
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"All saying is once the lock down has come to an end and everyone is back to work then why would it be so bad to open clubs
Play is upto the individuals they can still socialise same as any other pub or club
An no wasn't saying cause still working it makes sense for us to play we wouldn't meet at this current time we value our lives and others but when lock down ends it won't just be swingers clubs who put people at risk it will be schools hairdressers shopping arcades sports events concerts flights and normal socialising should everyone stop doing any of these until a vaccine is found could be a year away or until it disappears on its own
Within a couple of weeks most businesses will reopen the country can't remain in lock down financially so people who are sitting at home enjoying the sun will be in the same risk category as us that are still working "
I dont think people were actually singling out clubs as something they think should be closed longer , they were generally lumping them in with pubs/ clubs/ cinemas etc ... ie leisure venues where social distancing is not all that practical
I dont think you can include schools in your point because education isnt a social activity, if people are at risk there, its because in the long run its of more benefit to continue to educate them and there have already been hints that schools wont have all pupils in at the same times anyway
Realistically the end of lockdown will not mean the end of social distancing, we have already been told that, so i think its naive to think most of these venues will reopen in a few weeks as you predict , and if / as and when they do, its likely it will be with a very different set up from before , for example half the seats in a theatre or cinema blocked out to allow people to have their distance , limited number of tables in restaurants, limited number of people in pubs (which i cant even see the point of because if you aren't meant to mix with others you might aswel drink at home), retail shops will probably have limited number in the building then one in one out like the supermarkets do now, sports events and concerts with audiences are probably a long way off.. .. these measures will all be so that the businesses can reopen but social distancing to a degree can still be followed
People were suggesting the social distancing is not only impractical in a swing club setting, it kind of defeats the purpose of the club in the first place, so its likely they might wait even longer ... thats not a dig at clubs, its just the harsh reality of the situation |
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Don't think pubs clubs gyms and shops will open soon but they will eventually and this will cause a rise in infection as will the next few weeks as factories reopen
Hard to work in factory and keep a distance due to noise and job types as well as more people using public transport to get to an from work
Construction industry has struggled to do this all along as many jobs are two man jobs same as production line workers
It's a bad time for everyone just thought people on a site like this would have more empathy for the smaller businesses struggling to manage at times like this
We have friends who own pubs who are afraid of losing there business and home above
We also have family working for the NHS who risk there lives and there loved ones to try and keep all of us safe not to mention others who are remaining working to keep the country going |
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"Don't think pubs clubs gyms and shops will open soon but they will eventually and this will cause a rise in infection as will the next few weeks as factories reopen
Hard to work in factory and keep a distance due to noise and job types as well as more people using public transport to get to an from work
Construction industry has struggled to do this all along as many jobs are two man jobs same as production line workers
It's a bad time for everyone just thought people on a site like this would have more empathy for the smaller businesses struggling to manage at times like this
We have friends who own pubs who are afraid of losing there business and home above
We also have family working for the NHS who risk there lives and there loved ones to try and keep all of us safe not to mention others who are remaining working to keep the country going "
Empathy won't change the facts. It is what it is and wrapping it in cotton wool won't help anyone. Things have changed that's just the way it is. It's a sad of course it is and I have no doubt that at some point things will return to a version of normal but it ain't happening any time soon. |
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Trying to move and open a B&B. Will probably have to buy unseen and deal with the consequences. Can't even think about opening until next year, so really need to be careful with cash flow. Even then, there may be things I need to consider for social distancing when I'm getting ready.
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"Don't think pubs clubs gyms and shops will open soon but they will eventually and this will cause a rise in infection as will the next few weeks as factories reopen
Hard to work in factory and keep a distance due to noise and job types as well as more people using public transport to get to an from work
Construction industry has struggled to do this all along as many jobs are two man jobs same as production line workers
It's a bad time for everyone just thought people on a site like this would have more empathy for the smaller businesses struggling to manage at times like this
We have friends who own pubs who are afraid of losing there business and home above
We also have family working for the NHS who risk there lives and there loved ones to try and keep all of us safe not to mention others who are remaining working to keep the country going
Empathy won't change the facts. It is what it is and wrapping it in cotton wool won't help anyone. Things have changed that's just the way it is. It's a sad of course it is and I have no doubt that at some point things will return to a version of normal but it ain't happening any time soon. "
Agreed, reality and empathy are not mutually exclusive
thinking that realistically they wont be open for a long time doesn’t mean we wont miss them or can’t appreciate how difficult it will be for the owners ... it just means we can kinda see the s**t situation for what it is rather than putting on the rose tinted glasses and saying oh well we will be at risk loads of other places anyway |
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"Don't think pubs clubs gyms and shops will open soon but they will eventually and this will cause a rise in infection as will the next few weeks as factories reopen
Hard to work in factory and keep a distance due to noise and job types as well as more people using public transport to get to an from work
Construction industry has struggled to do this all along as many jobs are two man jobs same as production line workers
It's a bad time for everyone just thought people on a site like this would have more empathy for the smaller businesses struggling to manage at times like this
We have friends who own pubs who are afraid of losing there business and home above
We also have family working for the NHS who risk there lives and there loved ones to try and keep all of us safe not to mention others who are remaining working to keep the country going
Empathy won't change the facts. It is what it is and wrapping it in cotton wool won't help anyone. Things have changed that's just the way it is. It's a sad of course it is and I have no doubt that at some point things will return to a version of normal but it ain't happening any time soon.
Agreed, reality and empathy are not mutually exclusive
thinking that realistically they wont be open for a long time doesn’t mean we wont miss them or can’t appreciate how difficult it will be for the owners ... it just means we can kinda see the s**t situation for what it is rather than putting on the rose tinted glasses and saying oh well we will be at risk loads of other places anyway "
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I'm being realistic and have been from the start. The longer it goes on, the less likely it is that some clubs will re-open.
If we can't re-open as a swingers club any time soon, we already have plans to use our building for other things.
Everyone is having to adapt and we are no different. We have bills to pay and we will adjust accordingly.
The question on whether clubs will re-open has been done to death now on several threads and it's not helping to be honest. None of us know what will happen down the line and speculation isn't helpful for our moral or desire to want to open as a swingers club again.
There is no doubt that swingers clubs will be among the last to open, but when that is, we don't know. When clubs do open, there will be people who don't feel able to attend for a while, that is their prerogative.
The thread has become very repetitive now, as have the other speculative club threads, so I will be stepping away from them. When there are plans, timelines and fact, I will sit up and listen, but until then I won't be reading anymore of the comments or answering anymore PM's pn the subject. |
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Well said Vicky you have written exactly what we at JAYDEES would have said, it has got very repetitive here and we will be doing the same.
So we too will leave the thread, like yourself, and see what transpires in the future, but like yourself, I think it will be a long..long time before we are opening again
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"Wondering if clubs be open stright when lockdwn is over"
Even when lock down is over...
The same problem is there other than the NHS will have available intensive care bed for you now they've had chance to build the extra hospitals which is all and only what lock down is about. |
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"All saying is once the lock down has come to an end and everyone is back to work then why would it be so bad to open clubs
Play is upto the individuals they can still socialise same as any other pub or club
An no wasn't saying cause still working it makes sense for us to play we wouldn't meet at this current time we value our lives and others but when lock down ends it won't just be swingers clubs who put people at risk it will be schools hairdressers shopping arcades sports events concerts flights and normal socialising should everyone stop doing any of these until a vaccine is found could be a year away or until it disappears on its own
Within a couple of weeks most businesses will reopen the country can't remain in lock down financially so people who are sitting at home enjoying the sun will be in the same risk category as us that are still working
I dont think people were actually singling out clubs as something they think should be closed longer , they were generally lumping them in with pubs/ clubs/ cinemas etc ... ie leisure venues where social distancing is not all that practical
I dont think you can include schools in your point because education isnt a social activity, if people are at risk there, its because in the long run its of more benefit to continue to educate them and there have already been hints that schools wont have all pupils in at the same times anyway
Realistically the end of lockdown will not mean the end of social distancing, we have already been told that, so i think its naive to think most of these venues will reopen in a few weeks as you predict , and if / as and when they do, its likely it will be with a very different set up from before , for example half the seats in a theatre or cinema blocked out to allow people to have their distance , limited number of tables in restaurants, limited number of people in pubs (which i cant even see the point of because if you aren't meant to mix with others you might aswel drink at home), retail shops will probably have limited number in the building then one in one out like the supermarkets do now, sports events and concerts with audiences are probably a long way off.. .. these measures will all be so that the businesses can reopen but social distancing to a degree can still be followed
People were suggesting the social distancing is not only impractical in a swing club setting, it kind of defeats the purpose of the club in the first place, so its likely they might wait even longer ... thats not a dig at clubs, its just the harsh reality of the situation "
I think we also have to think of owners and staff of clubs. They aren't going to put themselves at risk either. Local councils are fussy enough about clubs anyway so surely won't allow licenses if social distancing is required , which it obviously will be be until when/if a vaccine becomes widely available |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Looks like we can all forget clubs for this year after what Chris Whitty chief medical officer for England said yesterday !!!!
I concur x"
Much to my disappointment cant wait for you guys to reopen you'll have to beat me off with a stick trying to get in Haha
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Love clubs, especially the fetish orientated ones. But I'm more worried about live music, sport and pubs. Also about wether there will be a massive dip in birth rate...and therefore future dearth of tax revenue that funds NHS. It's a minefield and timing is so important on so many levels. I'm just hoping to see my son for his birthday in June and give some sort of halfway normal party..
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"Love clubs, especially the fetish orientated ones. But I'm more worried about live music, sport and pubs. Also about wether there will be a massive dip in birth rate...and therefore future dearth of tax revenue that funds NHS. It's a minefield and timing is so important on so many levels. I'm just hoping to see my son for his birthday in June and give some sort of halfway normal party..
D"
Maybe the birth rate will go up!
People stuck at home, get bored, can't be bothered to go out for condoms.
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Given some the more negative forecasts & discussions above & those that REMAIN on FAB (notably still looking for future private meets).
WHY are you so concerned that clubs survive or don’t survive. Especially those contributors that don’t appear to have ever visited one !!! Or have the intention to do so.
The vast majority of the club owners simply don’t know when, where, what & how the club landscape will look in the coming months. We won’t open if we thought we would place anyone at a higher risk than risk than a pub/restaurant/aeroplane/call centre/football match etc etc. This is for the medical profession & government to decide in due course.
Uncertain times & one would have a crystal ball to predict the future from ALL aspects of our society & day to day lives. Everyone one is affected across the globe. Certainly the survival of small businesses, such as clubs is not critically important. However small businesses employ 35/40 % (aprox) of the UK’s workforce.
For those that support their local club/s & are positive for their future re-opening a big thank you xx"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm being realistic and have been from the start. The longer it goes on, the less likely it is that some clubs will re-open.
If we can't re-open as a swingers club any time soon, we already have plans to use our building for other things.
Everyone is having to adapt and we are no different. We have bills to pay and we will adjust accordingly.
The question on whether clubs will re-open has been done to death now on several threads and it's not helping to be honest. None of us know what will happen down the line and speculation isn't helpful for our moral or desire to want to open as a swingers club again.
There is no doubt that swingers clubs will be among the last to open, but when that is, we don't know. When clubs do open, there will be people who don't feel able to attend for a while, that is their prerogative.
The thread has become very repetitive now, as have the other speculative club threads, so I will be stepping away from them. When there are plans, timelines and fact, I will sit up and listen, but until then I won't be reading anymore of the comments or answering anymore PM's pn the subject."
You might not like the truth or freedom to speak but that won't stop those of us who value both of these things. |
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"I'm being realistic and have been from the start. The longer it goes on, the less likely it is that some clubs will re-open.
If we can't re-open as a swingers club any time soon, we already have plans to use our building for other things.
Everyone is having to adapt and we are no different. We have bills to pay and we will adjust accordingly.
The question on whether clubs will re-open has been done to death now on several threads and it's not helping to be honest. None of us know what will happen down the line and speculation isn't helpful for our moral or desire to want to open as a swingers club again.
There is no doubt that swingers clubs will be among the last to open, but when that is, we don't know. When clubs do open, there will be people who don't feel able to attend for a while, that is their prerogative.
The thread has become very repetitive now, as have the other speculative club threads, so I will be stepping away from them. When there are plans, timelines and fact, I will sit up and listen, but until then I won't be reading anymore of the comments or answering anymore PM's pn the subject.
You might not like the truth or freedom to speak but that won't stop those of us who value both of these things. "
Boring and repetitive is nothing to do with freedom of speech or the truth. |
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Reading some of these comments really does remind me why we go to clubs & contrary to some peoples belief, its not always for the physical but to spend time & communicate with the genuine swingers in person & funnily enough you don't get to see Johnny One Meet & his speculation, sorry,free speech.
Club owners & club staff you have our full support & sympathy during these difficult times. |
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By *asbeenCouple
over a year ago
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"We should some how support our local club
Send them a donation then....?"
Clubs that charge membership will be fine, as most of the memberships will be due for renewal when they reopen (being annual).
charge
couples £20
singles £75
single ladies £20
So for a single guy that's £1.44 per week and for a couple/single lady 40p per week.
Does anyone think that's too deer and if so what would you charge ?
CLUBS NEED TO MAKE MONEY !!!!!!!
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"We should some how support our local club
Send them a donation then....?
Clubs that charge membership will be fine, as most of the memberships will be due for renewal when they reopen (being annual).
charge
couples £20
singles £75
single ladies £20
So for a single guy that's £1.44 per week and for a couple/single lady 40p per week.
Does anyone think that's too deer and if so what would you charge ?
CLUBS NEED TO MAKE MONEY !!!!!!!
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What if the Club charges a one off lifetime membership fee? They can only make money when people attend the Club. |
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By *asbeenCouple
over a year ago
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"We should some how support our local club
Send them a donation then....?
Clubs that charge membership will be fine, as most of the memberships will be due for renewal when they reopen (being annual).
charge
couples £20
singles £75
single ladies £20
So for a single guy that's £1.44 per week and for a couple/single lady 40p per week.
Does anyone think that's too deer and if so what would you charge ?
CLUBS NEED TO MAKE MONEY !!!!!!!
What if the Club charges a one off lifetime membership fee? They can only make money when people attend the Club."
No lifetime memberships, the idea is to make money annually.
CLUBS NEED TO MAKE MONEY!!!!!
Does anyone think that's too deer and if so what would you charge? |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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If the organisers of the largest show of it`s kind in the world, the Great Dorset Steam Fair, have cancelled their show for the long August BH weekend, their isn`t much hope for clubs. There`s rumours that the final preserved tractor show in November is in danger of being cancelled as well! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yet another feed on clubs an how bad they will be
Yet plenty on here can't wait to get private parties flowing again or even just meets can't see how they differ from clubs or pubs
Nobody knows who has it who carries it so even a one off meet could pass it
What do people wanna do remain isolated from others including loved ones and live their lives afraid of what may be or may not
Even if a vacine is found it may only reduce the effects of it and people with underlying conditions could still die
Hospitals are nowhere near full of corona patients and even patients that have gone in with other issues aren't tested so are classed as corona patients
People are dying of normal day to day issues such as heart attack cancer but they are still placed on the corona death list because of lack of testing and no post mortem
What people should be looking at is the amount who have recovered and even then its debatable if they had it as no tests are done
Other way of looking at it is everyone has social distanced for over a month now n figures aren't changing so How's that work
Plus don't get started on people looking forward to jumping into an over packed tin can that recirculates its air supply so they can jet off on their holidays
In short let's just all stay in never socialise again let the country and economy decline and businesses close and all live a soletary existence and die of something else "
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"I'd suggest No with a capital N.
Clubs will be able to reopen when either there is a vaccine which will never be found (it's a virus so it mutates) or when it magically dissapears on its own and we all forget about it as its not in the news anymore but the political tension with China is "
This virus is relatively stable so far and the signs are a number of vaccines will be available to fight it.
It will also be able to be treated with drugs |
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"I'd suggest No with a capital N.
Clubs will be able to reopen when either there is a vaccine which will never be found (it's a virus so it mutates) or when it magically dissapears on its own and we all forget about it as its not in the news anymore but the political tension with China is
This virus is relatively stable so far and the signs are a number of vaccines will be available to fight it.
It will also be able to be treated with drugs"
Are you speaking on behalf of the government or is that just your opinion? |
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