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End of clubs until a vaccine?

By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

Is it the end of clubs until a vaccine is readily available (realistically 18 months away )? Personally, we probably won't even meet anyone until then (can't imagine anyone being that stupid), let alone step foot into a club? Do people still not understand how dangerous this disease is? It's killing many young people as well - it doesn't discriminate

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"Is it the end of clubs until a vaccine is readily available (realistically 18 months away )? Personally, we probably won't even meet anyone until then (can't imagine anyone being that stupid), let alone step foot into a club? Do people still not understand how dangerous this disease is? It's killing many young people as well - it doesn't discriminate "

This is quite a pertinent question actually. It’s not like you can actually have a “safe meet” in term of this virus pandemic.

It is going to be a big issue for many, many aspects of our life for at least the next 12-18 months.

I really can’t imagine any kind of social sex interactions until this thing has really disappeared from our world,

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By *ilverminxWoman over a year ago

edinburgh

It’s scary to think but I don’t think this is going to go away completely. Where you used to ask for std checks before meeting someone, we’ll be asking for covid antibody checks....

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By *exyCouple999Couple over a year ago

South Bucks

China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

12-18 months would be a disaster for most clubs

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By *izzy.miss.lizzyCouple over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

I've never fancied a club anyways... this has made me even more resolute it's not for me!

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"12-18 months would be a disaster for most clubs

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. 12-18 months would be a disaster not just to clubs but pubs , restaurants , clothes shops and my biggest weaknesses betting shops and casinos

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By *oAnCouple over a year ago

Streatham

A vaccine is a long time away - maybe years! What they are looking for is a drug regime that works now that is about a month to 6 months away - the best explanation is here and this was a month ago and even from then till now things have changed but if you have an hour to waste then this is about the best explanation out there https://youtu.be/lWOYj8hjjjM

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Clubs will open when pubs, bars and restaurants reopen. This will be in one of the last waves to have lockdown lifted; sporting events, concerts etc being the last.

Sadly for bar/restaurantclub owners I would think we are looking at September at the earliest before anywhere opens

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs will open when pubs, bars and restaurants reopen. This will be in one of the last waves to have lockdown lifted; sporting events, concerts etc being the last.

Sadly for bar/restaurantclub owners I would think we are looking at September at the earliest before anywhere opens"

Clubs may open. But how many will want to go swinging that is the question

Not sure there ever will be a vaccine for this but with Dave's condition we have to play safe so we will err on the side of safety

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In reality clubs have weathered HIV etc so they will open and people will attend. If you give in to the fear of maybe catching covid 19 after lock downs fully relaxed then we believe your life will be a lonely one continuing social distancing, as a society the uk have weathered terrorist attacks did it stop people visiting concerts or cities ? Did HIV stop swinging ? No it didnt, it's a case of if someones not looking well the club wont allow them in or most responsible ones wont..also clubs often disinfect better than other places so are probably more sterile than supermarkets gyms spas etc..

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

And you believe what’s coming out of China?! The population of Wuhan are all masked up with gloves- some even wearing Hazmat suits- that’s a recovery?!

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

No, I think that in a couple of months time the country will be close to infection free and things will get back to normal.

I just hope that the clubs survive the financial crisis that has been created.

Cal

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By *horty4Man over a year ago

london

Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Like any virus it will pass through if the test saying you have antibodys, then your ok just like all flu like virus's they never go away but the body can cope. We have to be careful but not hide forever what life is that.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the only people who will absolutely be able to go to clubs with confidence are going to be those who have already had it...

so until they can do a fast and easily antibodies test to see, basically any mass gathering is going to be a difficult subject to broach...

and thats without the probable 2nd/3rd wave of this thing....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs will open when pubs, bars and restaurants reopen. This will be in one of the last waves to have lockdown lifted; sporting events, concerts etc being the last.

Sadly for bar/restaurantclub owners I would think we are looking at September at the earliest before anywhere opens

Clubs may open. But how many will want to go swinging that is the question

Not sure there ever will be a vaccine for this but with Dave's condition we have to play safe so we will err on the side of safety "

I think the reopening of social venues may go two ways;

1. Everyone hits the bars, restaurants and clubs to celebrate freedom

2. People are a little more cautious and everywhere is quiet for a few months

Generally people are going to make their own assessment as to wether to return to normal.

I was speaking to a friend who works in public health in the tourist area of North Wales. Places where public gather in close proximity aren’t going to be allowed to open until the infection levels have been assessed

We are going to have to wait this one out, and hope that the owners of clubs, bars and restaurants are all weathering the storm

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By *abriellajackCouple over a year ago

Newport

If everyone is back in work normally and meeting with friends and family then I'm sure most will start meeting again. The onus will be on people to behave much the same as they would beforehand.

As in, if you have symptoms then you obviously should cancel any meet. Much like you should have before all of this if you had common flu or a sickness bug etc.

Clubs will open as soon as pubs re-open and it will be the same advice then. Aside of the obvious physical contact some will choose to engage in during play, clubs will likely be cleaner than virtually every pub as they should be getting wiped down frequently anyway.

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By *exyCouple999Couple over a year ago

South Bucks

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same.

And you believe what’s coming out of China?! The population of Wuhan are all masked up with gloves- some even wearing Hazmat suits- that’s a recovery?! "

Are you saying that there are still new cases in Wuhan ? If so, please supply your source, or is this, as I suspect random speculation ?

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"It’s scary to think but I don’t think this is going to go away completely. Where you used to ask for std checks before meeting someone, we’ll be asking for covid antibody checks....

I think this is the first of many in the next 100 years or so. We’re all going to adapt to more distancing and use of technology. Something like a global blockchain based ID and medical record will be used to restrict movement and authenticate sage people.

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By *aveandSue1Couple over a year ago

Doncaster

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

You genuinely believe anything that China says?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Certainly for us it’s ended club visits until we have either had the virus and recovered - assuming we do and you can’t contract it again - or there’s a vaccine.

Whilst the risk to younger people is lower, we’d never gamble on bringing it back into our house where it could then impact on our kids, friends and family just for the sake of a meet. Each to their own and we’d never preach on what people choose to do but, for us, until there’s a solution and no risk to our loved ones then we’re looking for a new past time x

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By *eordiesCouple over a year ago

newcastle

"Certainly for us it’s ended club visits until we have either had the virus and recovered - assuming we do and you can’t contract it again - or there’s a vaccine.

If the pubs and restaurants are open at some point then going to a club as a SOCIAL EVENT will put you at no greater risk of catching the virus. However, if when at the club you decide to play intimately with others then that is a whole different ball game, pardon the pun.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The biggest issue for clubs isn't the virus it's the licensing authority. Pubs, cafes and restaurants are not licensed the same way as swingers clubs. The sexual entertainment license is the issue, take that away and you have no club unless you try and run under the radar which is how it used you happen but those days are behind us.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"The biggest issue for clubs isn't the virus it's the licensing authority. Pubs, cafes and restaurants are not licensed the same way as swingers clubs. The sexual entertainment license is the issue, take that away and you have no club unless you try and run under the radar which is how it used you happen but those days are behind us. "

There's only a handful of clubs in the whole country that have the SEV...it's not compulsory to hold this licence. It is down to the individual authority. So those who don't hold an SEV are like any other bar and there is no reason why they can't open when the bars and restaurants do. Whether people will attend any bar/club/restaurant remains to be seen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful. "

Best answer ever. Well said

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

"the only people who will absolutely be able to go to clubs with confidence are going to be those who have already had it...

so until they can do a fast and easily antibodies test to see, basically any mass gathering is going to be a difficult subject to broach...

and thats without the probable 2nd/3rd wave of this thing.... "

Exactly! One poster above says we will be ' infection free' in 2 months !

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same.

You genuinely believe anything that China says?"

Sexy couple (amersham ) do!

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

"Certainly for us it’s ended club visits until we have either had the virus and recovered - assuming we do and you can’t contract it again - or there’s a vaccine.

Well said! Most people really don't get it - they actually think the virus is just gonna disappear into thin air!

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By *ingle ex cuckMan over a year ago

chester

I think it’s inevitable the virus will have some impact on clubs but time is a great healer and people tend to forget about risks.

It’s just a question of survival for the clubs until this blows over

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By *uttyandbeeCouple over a year ago

Leeds

"Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful.

Best answer ever. Well said "
Yes and all of a sudden in a week Taxi drivers Hairdressers and Engineers graduate to micro biologists and Infectious disease scientists

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By *ommenhimCouple over a year ago

wigan

"Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful.

Best answer ever. Well said Yes and all of a sudden in a week Taxi drivers Hairdressers and Engineers graduate to micro biologists and Infectious disease scientists"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

No they haven't recovered, their relying on eventual herd immunity kicking in, and God knows how many more dieing till that time, get a handle on it!

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

"Certainly for us it’s ended club visits until we have either had the virus and recovered - assuming we do and you can’t contract it again - or there’s a vaccine.

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By *uttyandbeeCouple over a year ago

Leeds

"Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful.

Best answer ever. Well said Yes and all of a sudden in a week Taxi drivers Hairdressers and Engineers graduate to micro biologists and Infectious disease scientists

The reality is though for a month or two the greatest minds didn’t/couldn’t stop the flights landing or implement a system of testing Or isolating those people arriving into the country. This may have been deliberated in a cab or while sat having a cut and blow quite feasibly...?"
The greatest minds did recognise the threat, unfortunatly they were not listned to when their fears and concequenses were published.

As a island the goverment made a hell of a cock up. Going back in history Great Britain was one of only 3 countries in Europe to keep Rabies from thier shores by putting animals into quarantine. Maybe we should do the same to humans in futue after they return from abroad

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By *rIntMan over a year ago

London

Even if there is a vaccine available in the near future...the chances of it being readily available for everyone are slim at best.

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By *n With LifeCouple over a year ago

Hadley Wood

"Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful.

Best answer ever. Well said "

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By *ommenhimCouple over a year ago

wigan

"Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful.

Best answer ever. Well said Yes and all of a sudden in a week Taxi drivers Hairdressers and Engineers graduate to micro biologists and Infectious disease scientists

The reality is though for a month or two the greatest minds didn’t/couldn’t stop the flights landing or implement a system of testing Or isolating those people arriving into the country. This may have been deliberated in a cab or while sat having a cut and blow quite feasibly...?The greatest minds did recognise the threat, unfortunatly they were not listned to when their fears and concequenses were published.

So the engineers, hairdressers and taxi drivers may well be in a better position than our government to offer advice..... I’m still listening to others, you never know where dense will come from do you?

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By *uttyandbeeCouple over a year ago

Leeds

"Fucking hilarious, lads can we leave the science to the scientists please? Fred down the pub speculating based on a shonky chart he saw in the Daily Mail isn’t useful.

Best answer ever. Well said Yes and all of a sudden in a week Taxi drivers Hairdressers and Engineers graduate to micro biologists and Infectious disease scientists

The reality is though for a month or two the greatest minds didn’t/couldn’t stop the flights landing or implement a system of testing Or isolating those people arriving into the country. This may have been deliberated in a cab or while sat having a cut and blow quite feasibly...?The greatest minds did recognise the threat, unfortunatly they were not listned to when their fears and concequenses were published.

Back in the 70s the Indian goverment gave away transiter radios to gentleman who had the snip

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would think that most local authorities along with public health will be taking a much closer interest in pretty much everything especially those clubs with a wet or sexual environment. While clubs will obviously be allowed to operate normally in time it's logical that sex based clubs will most likely face more issues with local authorities than a pub or cafe are likely to.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple over a year ago

walsall

People will still meet outside of clubs when lock down ends they will visit restraunts and bars so can't see difference in going to singers clubs to be fair unless everyone intends staying on house arrest for the next few years

People still forget flu kills over 6000 a yearin uk but its never stopped anyone going about what they wanted to do

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By *lubcouple2Couple over a year ago

newport

"People will still meet outside of clubs when lock down ends they will visit restraunts and bars so can't see difference in going to singers clubs to be fair unless everyone intends staying on house arrest for the next few years

People still forget flu kills over 6000 a yearin uk but its never stopped anyone going about what they wanted to do

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple over a year ago

walsall

Just wander how many of these people boycotting clubs will jump on the first plane to Spain Greece or where ever they had booked to go

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By *lubcouple2Couple over a year ago

newport

Also if you look at Chinese tourists when they come to uk for last 20 years they were face masks so if your saying Chinese people still wearing face masks and ppe means the virus isn't slowing there because they got masks on you need to realise it's the norm in china to wear masks and gloves as a coach driver that's done many Chinese tourist groups over the years it's the normal way of life for them sciences sars virus bird flu and swine flu epidemics

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People still forget flu kills over 6000 a yearin uk but its never stopped anyone going about what they wanted to do

The general public aren't the issue. The authorities are.

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By *ncubus XMan over a year ago

midlands - glasgow - islands

It’s not about when they can open its about how can they include social distancing when they do open like everywhere will have to, you can have a drink 2m away from some one, you can shop, you can have a meal how can you fuck 2m away from someone ???

Unless it’s going to become a spectator sport...

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple over a year ago

walsall

Think by the time government reopens pubs clubs n bars they will think the social distancing won't be needed any longer

Or do you think this will need to stay in operation for ever so no trains busses or flights

And reduced entrance to pubs clubs n restraunts to keep the distancing rules

Somehow doubt this very much

Once lock down ends people will be rushing to get back to normality

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

At the end of the day it will be up to each individual couple or guy if they want to go to clubs as it was before this disaster

It’s true most clubs have very high hygiene standards but it’s not only the club it’s the people who carry the virus and most will not even know they have it

We got over aids which is still with us but then most people use condoms which helps stem the spread

But to date there is nothing at the moment we can use in a club environment to stop each of us catching or spreading corona

I think a lot of people will return to clubs but also sadly there will also be a lot of people who will choose not to use them again

Just our thoughts

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Think by the time government reopens pubs clubs n bars they will think the social distancing won't be needed any longer

Or do you think this will need to stay in operation for ever so no trains busses or flights

And reduced entrance to pubs clubs n restraunts to keep the distancing rules

Somehow doubt this very much

Once lock down ends people will be rushing to get back to normality

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. I agree that once pubs , clubs , restaurants , casinos , betting shops re-open then social distancing rules will be relaxed.At first people will keep their distance but slowly we will get back to normal.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

People still forget flu kills over 6000 a yearin uk but its never stopped anyone going about what they wanted to do

You can get vaccinated against flu and thereby vastly reduce your chances of getting it (not 100% I accept).

We appear to be some way off getting a Covid-19 vaccination and so anyone who is over 50 years old, overweight and/or with other medical conditions is going to be at risk from Covid-19 for some time yet.

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By * and KCouple over a year ago

Southampton

It could be that clubs might open for people that can prove they've had the virus and are therefore immune. How they prove that im not sure, there was talk of giving a "passport" to people that have had it but i guess that ships sailed.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"It could be that clubs might open for people that can prove they've had the virus and are therefore immune. How they prove that im not sure, there was talk of giving a "passport" to people that have had it but i guess that ships sailed. "

If you can fake the new £20 notes, you can fake any document that will get you a free pass into society again.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

The SEV licence has already been found in law to be irrelevant to swinging clubs by a barrister and clubs such as ours that has an SEVL hasn't been told to renew by the council. So the SEVL can't be enforced on clubs now. They will have to re-write the rules for us and we will all adapt. If the customers want to attend, we will all open. If they don't, then we already have a plan B and C, like any good business.

We're all speculating on the big unknown and this particular subject has been discussed to death. Who knows...let's see how our new world will develop once restrictions begin to get lifted. But one thing is for sure, licensed premises in general will be closed for a while as they are not a priority

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People still forget flu kills over 6000 a yearin uk but its never stopped anyone going about what they wanted to do

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heard people make comparisons to the flue to many times . Get real its nothing like the flu . Its passed on far easier for a start and it may have escaped your notice but we do have a vaccine to protect people against the flue . This virus as been about for a few months and how many as it already killed ? Ignorance makes people careless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In reality clubs have weathered HIV etc so they will open and people will attend. If you give in to the fear of maybe catching covid 19 after lock downs fully relaxed then we believe your life will be a lonely one continuing social distancing, as a society the uk have weathered terrorist attacks did it stop people visiting concerts or cities ? Did HIV stop swinging ? No it didnt, it's a case of if someones not looking well the club wont allow them in or most responsible ones wont..also clubs often disinfect better than other places so are probably more sterile than supermarkets gyms spas etc.."
you carry covid 19 for up to 14 days before you show symptoms hence you can look well and still be carrying it , so turning away people because they look unwell is no yard stick is it ?

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By *adysilkCouple over a year ago

birmingham

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."
yes agree and they caused it

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By *arciocialWoman over a year ago

Leicester

People still forget flu kills over 6000 a yearin uk but its never stopped anyone going about what they wanted to do

heard people make comparisons to the flue to many times . Get real its nothing like the flu . Its passed on far easier for a start and it may have escaped your notice but we do have a vaccine to protect people against the flue . This virus as been about for a few months and how many as it already killed ? Ignorance makes people careless "

I got the impression they were saying there's a vaccine for the flu yet people still die from it so having a vaccine for covid-19 is unlikely to prevent everyone from catching it and dying.

When the flu first arrived it killed millions but as the world is a lot more advanced now and more hygienic, you'd expect it not to go as far.

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By *ou only live onceMan over a year ago

London

Really interesting thread. I'm sure clubs will open as normal, once the rest of the entertainment industry does? From the posts here it's clear it will take a while to get back to normal, which I guess is true of pubs, restaurants etc.

But unless you're going to avoid all gatherings and social situations until there is a vaccine, not sure why you would single out sex. Agreed you'll be on very close proximity to others to say the least, but we will be just as likely to catch it at work than we are at a meet?

And I'm not blase about this at all - but not sure we'll all keep locking ourselves away once the guidance says we don't need to?

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

This is quite a pertinent question actually. It’s not like you can actually have a “safe meet” in term of this virus pandemic.

It is going to be a big issue for many, many aspects of our life for at least the next 12-18 months.

I really can’t imagine any kind of social sex interactions until this thing has really disappeared from our world,"

Yes. This is becoming quite a worry here in Germany as well.

We already know of one club that has decided to pack it in already, and as every day passes it seems more likely that others will do the same.

We really don't know how the swinger lifestyle will come out of this, if it can at all.

One thing that I can say certainly is that it will never go back to "as you were"

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By *moothCriminal_xMan over a year ago

Redditch

Pubs will reopen july at latest. Possibly june.

Remember - most of us WILL get it. The government are trying to flatten the curve so we can treat people and everyone doesnt get ill at once.

When things reopen it means reopening shouldnt cause an unmanageable spike.

this level of social distancing lasting 18 months is unlikey

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By *ovegames42Man over a year ago

london

Spain and Italy are in the process of relaxing some lockdown procedures.

Reports on the news channel this morning say bars restaurant and cinemas in Italy will be some of the last venues to be considered for reopening.

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By *he masked ladyCouple over a year ago

cork

This virus has caused one issue which has been POSSIBLY bigger than the aids or the economic crash and that is UNCERTAINTY.businnesses ,governments ,banks tc don't like uncertainty and no one knows for sure what is going to happen with this virus.The main concern is when we get the ok to return slowly to normal life and the virus returning again,that would be devastating,government cannot let this happen so I cannot see normality returning anytime soon

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Spain and Italy are in the process of relaxing some lockdown procedures.

Reports on the news channel this morning say bars restaurant and cinemas in Italy will be some of the last venues to be considered for reopening."

I think they will be relaxed to UK standards. Don't forget it's been a strict lock down there with penalties in place etc...

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By *ovegames42Man over a year ago

london

There is going to be even bigger problems to deal with if and when we do get out of this.

The economy being the biggest one.

I can’t see daily life Being the same for a very long time,

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By *ovegames42Man over a year ago

london

"Spain and Italy are in the process of relaxing some lockdown procedures.

Reports on the news channel this morning say bars restaurant and cinemas in Italy will be some of the last venues to be considered for reopening.

I think they will be relaxed to UK standards. Don't forget it's been a strict lock down there with penalties in place etc..."

Good practice that seems to be being affective.

The thing with Italy is a higher concentration of different generations living under the same roof presented the possibility of quicker infection rates.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Spain and Italy are in the process of relaxing some lockdown procedures.

Reports on the news channel this morning say bars restaurant and cinemas in Italy will be some of the last venues to be considered for reopening.

I think they will be relaxed to UK standards. Don't forget it's been a strict lock down there with penalties in place etc...

Good practice that seems to be being affective.

The thing with Italy is a higher concentration of different generations living under the same roof presented the possibility of quicker infection rates."

This is my worry with the likes of India. Over 18 million people in New Delhi alone, living in poor conditions, multi generations sharing small spaces, poor access to healthcare. It will cut indiscriminately through countries such as this like a tornado

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By *ovegames42Man over a year ago

london

"Spain and Italy are in the process of relaxing some lockdown procedures.

Reports on the news channel this morning say bars restaurant and cinemas in Italy will be some of the last venues to be considered for reopening.

I think they will be relaxed to UK standards. Don't forget it's been a strict lock down there with penalties in place etc...

Good practice that seems to be being affective.

The thing with Italy is a higher concentration of different generations living under the same roof presented the possibility of quicker infection rates.

A very worrying state of affairs

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

It says news saying they have had 108 new cases in 24 hours.

Release too early?

Watch this space.

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same.

It says news saying they have had 108 new cases in 24 hours.

Release too early?

Watch this space."

And the 108 is only what they are admitting to don’t think many people inside and outside of China believes much what their rulers say

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By *ornLordMan over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

A very large pinch of salt seems to help.

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

"Pubs will reopen july at latest. Possibly june.

Remember - most of us WILL get it. The government are trying to flatten the curve so we can treat people and everyone doesnt get ill at once.

When things reopen it means reopening shouldnt cause an unmanageable spike.

this level of social distancing lasting 18 months is unlikey"

Really?! Nothing stopping you going out and trying to get infected now although I wouldn't try it - it' is potentially a death sentence for all ages - it doesn't discriminate. Social distancing is here to stay - make no mistake . Until a vaccine is found and widely distributed , life will never be the same

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Even if they can find a vaccine, which not all scientist think they will, with nearly 70 million people in the UK it would take a long time to vaccinate anyway. Even the people who have had it, we don't know how they will react to the virus if it mutates. I would suspect that this will die down then common outbreaks will become a norm for a few years.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Even if they can find a vaccine, which not all scientist think they will, with nearly 70 million people in the UK it would take a long time to vaccinate anyway. Even the people who have had it, we don't know how they will react to the virus if it mutates. I would suspect that this will die down then common outbreaks will become a norm for a few years. "

There will be people who will not become immune from the vaccine as well. As an ex health professional, I had to have Hepatitis vaccines but I could NEVER get immune!! All of the boosters in the world wouldn't work. So I just had to be careful in practice.

So, if by chance I can't get immune from the Covid vaccine, does that mean I can't socially integrate. Like fook it does! It just means that I need to understand the risks and decide if I want to take the risk. The answer would be yes.

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By *ncubus XMan over a year ago

midlands - glasgow - islands

People still forget flu kills over 6000 a yearin uk but its never stopped anyone going about what they wanted to do

Yes flue kills a lot per year with a vaccine, this is more contagious and deadly and fucks you up afterwards even when “recovered” and yes it kills more than the flu, stop comparing it to flu FFS

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By *uttyandbeeCouple over a year ago

Leeds

"At the end of the day it will be up to each individual couple or guy if they want to go to clubs as it was before this disaster

It’s true most clubs have very high hygiene standards but it’s not only the club it’s the people who carry the virus and most will not even know they have it.

We got over aids which is still with us but then most people use condoms which helps stem the spread

But to date there is nothing at the moment we can use in a club environment to stop each of us catching or spreading corona

I think a lot of people will return to clubs but also sadly there will also be a lot of people who will choose not to use them again

Just our thoughts "
We got over Aids ? Really I've read nowhere that had been eradicated or maybe I've had my head stuck in playboy for the last 20 years

Sorry doctor but its assumptions like yours that make people believe fiction.

Very dangerous

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That is the scary question, will there be a new form of social apartheid.

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By *elshsunsWoman over a year ago

Flintshire

Never had a flu jab in my life and I’m 60yrs old , usually catch the flu every 10yrs and it builds up my immune system . I don’t have Hep injections and I work with drug and alcohol users in mental health services . The key to fighting off virus and infections is a healthy immune system which means looking after the body cutting out processed food , cutting down on alcohol no smoking keeping hydrated and exercise .

I have no underlying health risks like diabetes etc and I’m aware of risks when I am at work Nd take appropriate action . For 42yrs I’ve worked in front line services from the police to children in care mental health and drug and alcohol users to street homeless shelters !!! I’m fit and well .

I won’t be having a Covid injection and I will return to Townhouse just as I will be returning to meeting outside clubs as soon as this is over

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

To be fair, people are not going to be wearing a badge to display their viral status, so you won't know who has or hasn't had it or been vaccinated.

There have been several interesting comments from leading health experts recently. One being that the immunity afforded by being infected or vaccinated will likely not be permanent, and possibly only last a few months. What that immunity does do though is disrupt the chain of infection and seriously reduce the rate that it a virus will spread.

They have also suggested that the covid-19 vaccine could be added to the seasonal flue vaccine as it is highly possible that this will become part of the annual viral load we experience every winter.

These experts also underlined the FACT that seasonal flu has been a "managed" global pandemic for decades now and is responsible for upto half a million deaths every year, but unchecked Covid-19 could be much worse.

Cal

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By *lipsCouple over a year ago

LEICESTER

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

And you believe what China tells the world ?

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By *lipsCouple over a year ago

LEICESTER

"At the end of the day it will be up to each individual couple or guy if they want to go to clubs as it was before this disaster

It’s true most clubs have very high hygiene standards but it’s not only the club it’s the people who carry the virus and most will not even know they have it.

We got over aids which is still with us but then most people use condoms which helps stem the spread

But to date there is nothing at the moment we can use in a club environment to stop each of us catching or spreading corona

I think a lot of people will return to clubs but also sadly there will also be a lot of people who will choose not to use them again

Just our thoughts We got over Aids ? Really I've read nowhere that had been eradicated or maybe I've had my head stuck in playboy for the last 20 years

Sorry doctor but its assumptions like yours that make people believe fiction.

Very dangerous "

He didn't say it had been eradicated he said people moved forward

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

Ok they manage aids with condoms ffs

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

Thanks

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

"At the end of the day it will be up to each individual couple or guy if they want to go to clubs as it was before this disaster

It’s true most clubs have very high hygiene standards but it’s not only the club it’s the people who carry the virus and most will not even know they have it.

We got over aids which is still with us but then most people use condoms which helps stem the spread

But to date there is nothing at the moment we can use in a club environment to stop each of us catching or spreading corona

I think a lot of people will return to clubs but also sadly there will also be a lot of people who will choose not to use them again

Just our thoughts We got over Aids ? Really I've read nowhere that had been eradicated or maybe I've had my head stuck in playboy for the last 20 years

Sorry doctor but its assumptions like yours that make people believe fiction.

Very dangerous

He didn't say it had been eradicated he said people moved forward "

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

That is the scary question, will there be a new form of social apartheid. "

So interesting actually. Could 'social' apartheid become a part of life?

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

That is the scary question, will there be a new form of social apartheid.

So interesting actually. Could 'social' apartheid become a part of life? "

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By *uttyandbeeCouple over a year ago

Leeds

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

That is the scary question, will there be a new form of social apartheid.

So interesting actually. Could 'social' apartheid become a part of life? "
no. In a word

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By *uttyandbeeCouple over a year ago

Leeds

"At the end of the day it will be up to each individual couple or guy if they want to go to clubs as it was before this disaster

It’s true most clubs have very high hygiene standards but it’s not only the club it’s the people who carry the virus and most will not even know they have it.

We got over aids which is still with us but then most people use condoms which helps stem the spread

But to date there is nothing at the moment we can use in a club environment to stop each of us catching or spreading corona

I think a lot of people will return to clubs but also sadly there will also be a lot of people who will choose not to use them again

Just our thoughts We got over Aids ? Really I've read nowhere that had been eradicated or maybe I've had my head stuck in playboy for the last 20 years

Sorry doctor but its assumptions like yours that make people believe fiction.

Very dangerous

He didn't say it had been eradicated he said people moved forward "
No it reads we got over AIDS maybe the wording was wrong and then you say we found a way round it . Once again very misleading as whilst there has been a drop in reported cases there are still a significant amount of new recorded each year

Once again a dangerous interpretation

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

"At the end of the day it will be up to each individual couple or guy if they want to go to clubs as it was before this disaster

It’s true most clubs have very high hygiene standards but it’s not only the club it’s the people who carry the virus and most will not even know they have it.

We got over aids which is still with us but then most people use condoms which helps stem the spread

But to date there is nothing at the moment we can use in a club environment to stop each of us catching or spreading corona

I think a lot of people will return to clubs but also sadly there will also be a lot of people who will choose not to use them again

Just our thoughts We got over Aids ? Really I've read nowhere that had been eradicated or maybe I've had my head stuck in playboy for the last 20 years

Sorry doctor but its assumptions like yours that make people believe fiction.

Very dangerous

He didn't say it had been eradicated he said people moved forward No it reads we got over AIDS maybe the wording was wrong and then you say we found a way round it . Once again very misleading as whilst there has been a drop in reported cases there are still a significant amount of new recorded each year

Once again a dangerous interpretation "

Just to put it into simple terms for you to help prevent aids and other std,s everyone was advised to practice safe sex ie condoms so clubs and personal meetings you stand less chance of contracting any std,s

At the moment there is nothing to protect you from corona virus unless you have already had it

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs."
Think you're right never been to a private party but might have to start looking for some,don't want to wait till next year before having fun

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs."

Yes - Russian roulette parties!

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs."

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx

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By *elshsunsWoman over a year ago

Flintshire

Blimey is no one having sex anymore ??? After lockdown is over ??? Need to close this site down then !!

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx"

Have to agree with that.

If you are going to arrange a private party to have sex with strangers then you may just as well go to a club.

If the clubs are still closed then it will be for a reason, so in that event private party's wouldn't be very sensible.

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By *onyMad123Couple over a year ago

nottingham/ derby

Crikey, you know what there are always infections about weather at swinging clubs, pubs, supermarkets etc, think people are being a little over dramatic, I caught a child hood virus, slapped cheek aka parvo b19, 99% of population immune out of childhood, this virus tried to kill me with menegitis type symptoms and after effects of joint and liver issues, but that was just one of those things I wasn't immune from, probably worse long term effects that those recovering from covid 19. If your in the mind set clubs etc can't reopen, in the future, what hope have you got...... My businesses are public based and we need to get back in feet in the latter half of this year, or frankly what is life..... You cannot wrap yourself in bubble wrap and expect to live..... I'm not being flippant, I'm sticking to the rules and we will be back out, I feel those at risk of complications need to maybe think twice and make informed choice, but that the healthy population, needs some normality back

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By *elshsunsWoman over a year ago

Flintshire

"Crikey, you know what there are always infections about weather at swinging clubs, pubs, supermarkets etc, think people are being a little over dramatic, I caught a child hood virus, slapped cheek aka parvo b19, 99% of population immune out of childhood, this virus tried to kill me with menegitis type symptoms and after effects of joint and liver issues, but that was just one of those things I wasn't immune from, probably worse long term effects that those recovering from covid 19. If your in the mind set clubs etc can't reopen, in the future, what hope have you got...... My businesses are public based and we need to get back in feet in the latter half of this year, or frankly what is life..... You cannot wrap yourself in bubble wrap and expect to live..... I'm not being flippant, I'm sticking to the rules and we will be back out, I feel those at risk of complications need to maybe think twice and make informed choice, but that the healthy population, needs some normality back "

Totally agree ....

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I actually agree with most of that.

Of course viruses have always been around and always will be.

I'm pretty sure that we have picked up a cold or two during our swinger club visits over the years, and will almost certainly do so again.

However where we differ is that this virus is highly infectious and it is a killer (and not a very nice one at that)

Eventually pubs bars and restaurants will re-open and with a bit of common sense and social distancing it shouldn't be a problem.

Swinger clubs by their very nature are where people get very close, fucking close (pun intended)

There is a huge difference between sitting 6ft from someone in a restaurant to having a woman bouncing up and down on your cock and screaming yes yes yes into your face.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx"

I'd be far more worried in a private event than a club. Clubs I know will have been cleaned x

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Just wander how many of these people boycotting clubs will jump on the first plane to Spain Greece or where ever they had booked to go

Swinging clubs and going on holiday on a plane aren't really the same thing.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Just wander how many of these people boycotting clubs will jump on the first plane to Spain Greece or where ever they had booked to go

Swinging clubs and going on holiday on a plane aren't really the same thing. "

Yes a very big difference.

We will not be boycotting clubs at all. When they re-open we will almost certainly go to one, although maybe not in the first week or two.

The flying on the first plane bit raises another issue.

How many would want to be on the first flight of an plane that has been mothballed for 3 months?

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx

I'd be far more worried in a private event than a club. Clubs I know will have been cleaned x "

On the other side of the coin though, a private party would have a smaller attendance (therefore less potential "spreaders") and would be more likely to be attended by known friends/social circle (again, possibly less chance of spreading).

Also, the majority of swingers are actually very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene, I doubt very much that these standards would slip should a couple, individual or group arrange a private gathering.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"Just wander how many of these people boycotting clubs will jump on the first plane to Spain Greece or where ever they had booked to go

Swinging clubs and going on holiday on a plane aren't really the same thing.

Yes a very big difference.

We will not be boycotting clubs at all. When they re-open we will almost certainly go to one, although maybe not in the first week or two.

The flying on the first plane bit raises another issue.

How many would want to be on the first flight of an plane that has been mothballed for 3 months?

With the amount of safety checks and regulations I wouldn't be worried about that.

I'd be more concerned with the people who haven't driven their cars in 3 months (seized up components etc).

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx

I'd be far more worried in a private event than a club. Clubs I know will have been cleaned x

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

People who attend clubs regularly have huge friendship circles on the scene and know each other well. Again your point makes no sense!! Whether that small group of friends attends a club or a private party, the risk is exactly the same!!! lol Are you saying that you know the infection status of your friends and therefore would be happy to attend a party with them?? None of us know if we are infected or not.

As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

I'm not flying the flag for clubs here by the way. I am simply saying that if you want to risk going to private parties for your swinging fix, then the risk is the same.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx

I'd be far more worried in a private event than a club. Clubs I know will have been cleaned x

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

I'm not flying the flag for clubs here by the way. I am simply saying that if you want to risk going to private parties for your swinging fix, then the risk is the same. "

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

Obviously not, my point was that somebody organising a get together would most probably have the same standards of cleanliness/hygiene as a club would. As would attendees who would likely vote with their feet if said standards were below expected.

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As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

True, but as a private party is a smaller attendance than a club the risk does reduce.

I'm not arguing against clubs or promoting private gatherings as an alternative or being totally risk free. I'm just of the belief that if there is a significant lag between lockdown lifting and clubs opening then some people will host their own gatherings.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx

I'd be far more worried in a private event than a club. Clubs I know will have been cleaned x

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

I'm not flying the flag for clubs here by the way. I am simply saying that if you want to risk going to private parties for your swinging fix, then the risk is the same.

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

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As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

True, but as a private party is a smaller attendance than a club the risk does reduce.

I honestly believe...in fact, I know that private parties are going on now. Amid a crisis, people are still danger f*cking...it's ridiculous. So when the restrictions start to lift, parties will be happening everywhere and those who enjoy clubs will attend them too. I think clubs will be quieter at first and we will adjust our calendar accordingly, but people will eventually slip back into old habits.

I have also heard some folk say that this crisis has made them realise how life is so short and they will be living their fullest life once restrictions are lifted and they can't wait to get back on the scene.

It's a very personal choice and people will have their reasons for swinging or not. One thing is for sure, clubs will still be needed and I am happy to adjust and use our premises for other things until we are given the go ahead to open again. Not all clubs will have that luxury but I know that club owners are amongst some of the strongest, determined, diverse and entrepreneurial people you can have the pleasure of meeting. Running a club looks easy, because we all make it look that way. So I know that our fellow clubs will find a way through all this for those who want to continue to use us.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Very well said!

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx

I'd be far more worried in a private event than a club. Clubs I know will have been cleaned x

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

I'm not flying the flag for clubs here by the way. I am simply saying that if you want to risk going to private parties for your swinging fix, then the risk is the same.

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

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As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

True, but as a private party is a smaller attendance than a club the risk does reduce.

I agree that this isn't the time for people to be having parties or hooking up. I do think that irrespective of peoples personal views we should be giving this policy of isolation reasonable time to have an effect.

And I do hope that the clubs do all reopen, it's obviously a labour of love for most owners and a safe, accepting place for like minded people to interact.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Very well said!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"I think clubs will be about the last places that reopen.

In the event of this being a time after lockdown is lifted I could see people arranging their own parties in homes or air bnbs.

I'm sorry but I don't see the difference between swinging in clubs or private parties in homes/air bnb's with regards to risk? Do you wear hazmat suits at private parties or something? lol xx

I'd be far more worried in a private event than a club. Clubs I know will have been cleaned x

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

I'm not flying the flag for clubs here by the way. I am simply saying that if you want to risk going to private parties for your swinging fix, then the risk is the same.

Are you saying that couples, individuals or groups that go to clubs are not similarly very clean and sensible when it comes to hygiene?

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As for less potential spreaders....it takes one person. Your small gathering could have that one.

True, but as a private party is a smaller attendance than a club the risk does reduce.

Well as you know I only meet in clubs.. so for me there will be no normality till they do open x

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By *hestercplCouple over a year ago

chester

Still planes flying now watched one going lax on going jfk only this afternoon

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

There are still some internal US flights still flying. Most of the planes in the air around Europe are cargo, postal and repatriation aircraft x

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple over a year ago

walsall

"Just wander how many of these people boycotting clubs will jump on the first plane to Spain Greece or where ever they had booked to go

Swinging clubs and going on holiday on a plane aren't really the same thing. "

No ur right being on a plane is way more risky

Virus is spread by touch a plane Isle is narrow how many seats do you touch on way to your own

Plus its recirculated air in a plane so one cough or sneeze cud circulate 1000s of times before you land so yeah no where near as risky as a club

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By *miles4himandmeCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Why put your life at risk for the sake of a shagging !!!

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By *moothCriminal_xMan over a year ago

Redditch

"Never had a flu jab in my life and I’m 60yrs old , usually catch the flu every 10yrs and it builds up my immune system . I don’t have Hep injections and I work with drug and alcohol users in mental health services . The key to fighting off virus and infections is a healthy immune system which means looking after the body cutting out processed food , cutting down on alcohol no smoking keeping hydrated and exercise .

I won’t be having a Covid injection and I will return to Townhouse just as I will be returning to meeting outside clubs as soon as this is over

Jesus. Wept.

A strong immune system puts you at higher risk with covid19 as the thing that kills you is an overactive autoimmune response

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They have been looking for a vaccine for forty years and have not found one. What chance have they of this virus which mutates all the time.

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By *arry On ShaggingCouple over a year ago

Betley

How very British this thread is. If it was the World Cup everyone is a tactical expert, goalkeeper coach & referee, if Wimbledon was on everyone knows all about back hand volleys, ace serves & net calls. Worldwide pandemic hits & you're all Doctors, Scientists & Biochemists.

None of us know what's really happening & it's unlikely that any of us will ever be anywhere near the pay grade to know either.

Stick to the guidelines, they may get tighter, they may get looser,& thats about as much as we can do, all this speculation on here is no good for anyone, club owners have a hard enough job in normal situations no need to make things harder in these difficult times.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"Why put your life at risk for the sake of a shagging !!!"
once they open clubs the risk will be minimal.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"How very British this thread is. If it was the World Cup everyone is a tactical expert, goalkeeper coach & referee, if Wimbledon was on everyone knows all about back hand volleys, ace serves & net calls. Worldwide pandemic hits & you're all Doctors, Scientists & Biochemists.

None of us know what's really happening & it's unlikely that any of us will ever be anywhere near the pay grade to know either.

YES!!!

Can I kiss you??? I'm immune, honest! Got the forged Corona passport to prove it and everything! lol

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By *iercedlotsCouple over a year ago

Stoke-on-Trent

Clubs have been a life saver for me . Im not blessed! cant tell whether you are lol.why no pics?

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By *arry On ShaggingCouple over a year ago

Betley

None of us know what's really happening & it's unlikely that any of us will ever be anywhere near the pay grade to know either.

YES!!!

Can I kiss you??? I'm immune, honest! Got the forged Corona passport to prove it and everything! lol

xx"

I'm no expert in doctored (oh the puns

) documentation so of course you can lol

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By *eed.a.signalMan over a year ago

Local

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By *eed.a.signalMan over a year ago

Local

100%

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In reality clubs have weathered HIV etc so they will open and people will attend. If you give in to the fear of maybe catching covid 19 after lock downs fully relaxed then we believe your life will be a lonely one continuing social distancing, as a society the uk have weathered terrorist attacks did it stop people visiting concerts or cities ? Did HIV stop swinging ? No it didnt, it's a case of if someones not looking well the club wont allow them in or most responsible ones wont..also clubs often disinfect better than other places so are probably more sterile than supermarkets gyms spas etc.. you carry covid 19 for up to 14 days before you show symptoms hence you can look well and still be carrying it , so turning away people because they look unwell is no yard stick is it ?"

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By *aulaxd500TV/TS over a year ago

leeds

Haven't read the whole thread but seems a bit extreme reaction.

What's the difference between a swingers club and a pub, football match,cinema, school keep those closed for a year?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, I think that in a couple of months time the country will be close to infection free and things will get back to normal.

I just hope that the clubs survive the financial crisis that has been created.

Cal"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, I think that in a couple of months time the country will be close to infection free and things will get back to normal.

I just hope that the clubs survive the financial crisis that has been created.

Cal"

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By *tudiousPipWoman over a year ago

W Yorks

In response to HIV clubs set out rules to make condom use mandatory, but less risky practices like oral sex without protection isn't covered (when did you last see a club offering free dental dams?)

Given that the current monitoring of high risk staff eg care home workers is to check their temperature daily, looking for a fever that means they must self isolate, couldn't clubs do the same? Invest in a proper forehead thermometer, check patrons temp at the door. Send home anyone who's temp is too high.

It's not a perfect solution. But neither are condoms. Both help reduce the risk of spreading infection.

And if you're planning on making a rectal thermometer joke, please don't. Read the room, eh?!

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By *inkyman1964Man over a year ago

Stoke-on-Trent

What about all those who have been found to have the Corona Virus but haven't shown symptoms?

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By *hadow KingsCouple (MM) over a year ago

Birmingham

Never gonna happen. I find it strange people think cuz of this end of everything is gonna happen.

Nah it will be like the AIDS panic back in the 80s. People on edge then like with all things, humans get used to the pressure and adapt and carry on.

We are very adaptable as a species

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By *uttyandbeeCouple over a year ago

Leeds

"Haven't read the whole thread but seems a bit extreme reaction.

What's the difference between a swingers club and a pub, football match,cinema, school keep those closed for a year? "
You can bet people have had sex in all the above locations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Checked on last year's death figures. Over 600,000 passed away in 2019! That's more than 1,500 a day!

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

Cant think of anything that we would want to do less than go to any busy public shared space, even a cinema until they can come up with a vaccine.

There are a lot of naive people who don't get that just the social distancing part of all this is going to be with us for quite some time to come.

Mind you, that's most likely the same folk who are still going to see their friends / parents.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

We don't fully know how things are going to develop - uk infection rates, possible treatments to make it a minor illness, vaccine development.

It's conjecture, so I'll just take each day as it comes

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By *iberatedPairCouple over a year ago

Suffolk

"I've never fancied a club anyways... this has made me even more resolute it's not for me! "

Irrelevant comment for this post. It really is

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By *edditchCouple8077Couple over a year ago

Redditch

"I've never fancied a club anyways... this has made me even more resolute it's not for me!

Irrelevant comment for this post. It really is "

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By *mcouple2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

Ever been to one ?

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Ever been to one ? "

Once or twice, yeh

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Ever been to one ? "

Probably nudging 1000 times to over 50 clubs in 5 countries.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The problem is that your not only contemplating shall I just live my life and deal with whatever happens , you also have to decide if you can live with spreading it to others and loved ones .

I’m being extremely safe , hospitals and death scare the crap out of me but I love socialising , gyms , travelling and I really love a good club night .. I enjoy being around and meeting new people . The conflict is real but in the end I think you have to live your life . If clubs did reopen I’m not sure people would feel as relaxed and therefore the atmosphere may not be as liberating and sexually charged as they once were ... at least until vaccines & treatment etc

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Professional Euro swingers , love it

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By *tockport 69Couple over a year ago

Stockport

I know one club we hope never open it door again ? and itsee just out side manchster E

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

Hope our favourite clubs open again, we are missing the social scene big time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly!

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly! "

hope so

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By *heorgasmaddictMan over a year ago

Liverpool

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly! "

Wait...what? Yesterday's news? You do know that over 160,000 people have died?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly!

Wait...what? Yesterday's news? You do know that over 160,000 people have died? "

Dont think we will be forgetting this for a long long time never mind the end of summer and we certainly won't be confident enough to be visiting clubs till there is a vaccine or its completely gone as im sure many feel the same way

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By *rFunBoyMan over a year ago

Longridge

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By *on12xxMan over a year ago

nottingham

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly!

hope so

What planet you on

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By *on12xxMan over a year ago

nottingham

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly! "

What planet u on

Or another money over health

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By *rFunBoyMan over a year ago

Longridge

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

This is - if China are actually being honest and straight with us?

Another wave has already started but under reported again...

It is going to change our lives for years...

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same.

This is - if China are actually being honest and straight with us?

Another wave has already started but under reported again...

It is going to change our lives for years...

Plus who says that they don’t have a vaccine?

If you manufactured the initial virus then would imagine you would make sure you also made a treatment for it.

After crippling the rest of the world if you can be at the forefront and hold all the cards it makes perfect sense.

Wonder if their clubs are doing a thriving trade?

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By *arvest 84Man over a year ago

SCAWBY, NEAR , BRIGG.

i wonder if swinging will ever be the same again ,----- due to the current social distancing and people shiting themselves if you get within three feet of them, --- will people have the confidence to kiss, hug, cuddle and have sex with strangers after corona ??

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By * and M lookingCouple over a year ago

Worcester

"i wonder if swinging will ever be the same again ,----- due to the current social distancing and people shiting themselves if you get within three feet of them, --- will people have the confidence to kiss, hug, cuddle and have sex with strangers after corona ??

Those that do could end up with it costing them their lives but sure there will be many regardless.

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By *asIsa OP Couple over a year ago

harrow

Those that do could end up with it costing them their lives but sure there will be many regardless.

Exactly. Got slated on the club thread for calling people deluded and asking them to stay safe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly! "

Haha your not a club promoter or anything ? Oh yes you are

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

Just being optimistic and hopeful here

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By *edditchCouple8077Couple over a year ago

Redditch

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly!

Haha your not a club promoter or anything ? Oh yes you are "

Maybe not all people have possibly to meet outside clubs.hard to understand for some

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the only people who will absolutely be able to go to clubs with confidence are going to be those who have already had it...

so until they can do a fast and easily antibodies test to see, basically any mass gathering is going to be a difficult subject to broach...

and thats without the probable 2nd/3rd wave of this thing.... "

Completely false, there’s evidence mounting that a significant number of people have been re-infected.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly! "

Every other pandemic which never reached our shores... I admire your optimism but I’d be very surprised if clubs are open until 2022, that’s the reality pubs etc are staring at

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ireland has just said pubs and clubs may have to remain shut for 18 months, the uk has said pubs and clubs will reopen when we hit the green zone but will have to keep social distancing measures in place. No way the councils will allow clubs to reopen. I love clubs but think clubs as we know them are done until all measures are lifted and a vaccine in place.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Ireland has just said pubs and clubs may have to remain shut for 18 months, the uk has said pubs and clubs will reopen when we hit the green zone but will have to keep social distancing measures in place. No way the councils will allow clubs to reopen. I love clubs but think clubs as we know them are done until all measures are lifted and a vaccine in place."

I would love to say that you are wrong.

Sadly I can't.

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By *artinbobMan over a year ago

Leicester

While I was there so can’t fully confirm this but don’t you think a lot of the fears people are displaying or the views that the world won’t be the same ever again are like out ancestors had during the wars? Just too much speculation when in reality we know nothing so stop reading in to things that you don’t fully know about. Of course we will recovery and get over it. Yes it’s going to take time. But I wish people would stop reading fake news stories or listening to mainstream media as all either want to do is scaremonger. We’ve not got it so bad. Yes we missing sex with others in the community because we’ve been asked to stay indoors to stay safe. And life’s a little trickier than normal. But at least we’re not been forced to war through national service putting yourself in harms way. Some of the stuff I read on here people need to get a grip and a reality check

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By *oungguyxxx100Man over a year ago

Sheffield and Maidstone

TBF I understand the Czech Republic and Denmark are rolling back restrictions and are looking to open bars etc asap. I recon it'll be 18 months of on/off lockdown

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By *rank speakerMan over a year ago

Worcester

"China seems to have recovered very well without any vaccine. Not sure why we in the UK (and elsewhere) shouldn't do the same."

In my opinion(for the little it's worth?) This is all China's fault anyway. If they'd dealt with it properly in the first place the rest of the world wouldn't be in the current mess. It started of in a distant province from the capital and the authorities did nothing to suppress it and even held a 40k strong party when it was just getting going so at the very least it certainly didn't get the concept of social distancing? And I doubt we'll ever get any accurate figures from them about their real death toll?

Let's hope the infection rate here drops off sufficiently to make meeting people possible sooner rather than later and we can all get back to some sort of normality? And that's me speaking from what is termed a high risk group!

Best of luck to all at the N.H.S. front line and poor suffering businesses

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By *rank speakerMan over a year ago

Worcester

Good to hear from the inside point of view! Good luck on holding out till some form of normality resumes! As someone who was involved in the entertainment industry some years ago and having relatives in it now I know how much of an unexpected blow this must have been. Very best wishes for your future.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

I can't find this announcement. Do you have a link to the news item please? These are allowed on Fab forums xx

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By *ess n BenCouple over a year ago

Didcot

Gove did say on bbc today the leisure industry would be the last to re-open when the lockdown is finishing

Bad news for everyone in the leisure industry and the general public who want to use it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't find this announcement. Do you have a link to the news item please? These are allowed on Fab forums xx"
Read this in th paper, schools looking to go back part time. Not sure how realable or news just to mmake people feel posative.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

I can't find this announcement. Do you have a link to the news item please? These are allowed on Fab forums xx Read this in th paper, schools looking to go back part time. Not sure how realable or news just to mmake people feel posative."

Here's the link. It sounds more like a catchy headline than official policy. It says they may be able to reopen in the summer but with restrictions.

Ireland may keep pubs closed until there is a coronavirus vaccine

Ireland may keep pubs closed until there is a coronavirus vaccine https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8234615/Ireland-pubs-bars-sports-venues-closed-coronavirus-vaccine.html?ito=native_share_article-top

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Ok I've found it.

Health minister for Ireland has said in an interview that pubs/clubs/restaurants may not open until a vaccine is found (The Irish will be fuming if the pubs don't open!) He also said that some pubs may be able to open later this year wih restrictions on numbers and social distancing. I am assuming that this could mean pubs that sell food could maybe take advance bookings and space people out around the venue; no walk in and no drinks only customers. That's the only way you could regulate numbers in a pub.

Again though, it's all 'could', 'maybe', 'if'.

It's looking more likely by the day that clubs such as ours will need to remain closed for a long long time and if that is for public safety, then so be it...it is what it is.

It's all out of our hands and I'm done with second guessing and speculating. Threads like these don't help to be honest, but it's interesting to read opinions, even if it's all guess work.

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By *inxeyCouple over a year ago

sutton

We agree

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Those that do could end up with it costing them their lives but sure there will be many regardless.

And people are still risking their lives and meeting. We have friends with profiles on the other Fab site and they’ve been inundated with offers as guys are now getting desperate. They just report them.

Exactly. Got slated on the club thread for calling people deluded and asking them to stay safe. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs will be packed as usual come end of summer! All this will be yesterday’s news. Just like every other pandemic! People forget quickly!

Haha your not a club promoter or anything ? Oh yes you are "

I’m also a person who’s been in this scene for many many years! I host parties, very popular parties, for the enjoyment of others!

I’m entitled to an opinion! So commenting and blocking me

got you where?

Good luck superman

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok I've found it.

Again though, it's all 'could', 'maybe', 'if'.

It's looking more likely by the day that clubs such as ours will need to remain closed for a long long time and if that is for public safety, then so be it...it is what it is.

It's all out of our hands and I'm done with second guessing and speculating. Threads like these don't help to be honest, but it's interesting to read opinions, even if it's all guess work.

xx"

We can hope that great clubs like yours weather the storm and come out shining on the other side x

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