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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
Hi guys. Would anyone be interested in coming camping on the 15 & 16 september at our farm. We would love to get a group of like minded people together to look at and discuss the development of our camp site for next year. Please note the only facility on site at present is running water. |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"Would definitely need toilets for campers.. Other wise your looking at people with motorhomes or caravans that have their own facilities..
So rules me out.. "
We fully understand. When we open fully next yr obviously toilets, showers etc possible hot tub and sauna will be in place. So campers will be more than welcome. |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
We fully understand. When we open fully next yr obviously toilets, showers etc possible hot tub and sauna will be in place. So campers will be more than welcombe.
We know it is limiting but just love to get a few people together to brainstorm and have a laugh. |
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Camping now seems to be divided into clear groups.
1: considerate campers who follow site rules and respect other people.
2: middle class yobs who turn up with brand new everything take over and don't give two craps about noise,mess and the country code.
3:caravaners who turn up who have no interest in socialising,spend hours setting up then shut the door and go and watch TV sitting on the couch.
4: free spirits who are nice and friendly usually in a very small two person tent but like to sit around until the early hours talking around a campfire keeping everyone awake.
5:the mayhem family, wild kid's running amok kicking ball's into others stuff whilst mum and dad get shit faced on cheap cider and White wine. Usually with a noisy dog.
6: rambler's who are only there for the night and gone before dawn.
Now as a campsite owner which users are you aiming to attract?
Camping has been ruined for us since lockdown, the "staycation" has attracted people who usually spend their summer holidays in magaluf getting wankered on the all inclusive drinks and shouting "OI OI" at the top of their voice at every opportunity.
My point is rules.
You either have them or you don't.
If you do, enforce them and allow everyone to enjoy the countryside not just one or two.
Or have no rules and make it known so people can choose to stay or not given their own personal needs. |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"Camping now seems to be divided into clear groups.
1: considerate campers who follow site rules and respect other people.
2: middle class yobs who turn up with brand new everything take over and don't give two craps about noise,mess and the country code.
3:caravaners who turn up who have no interest in socialising,spend hours setting up then shut the door and go and watch TV sitting on the couch.
4: free spirits who are nice and friendly usually in a very small two person tent but like to sit around until the early hours talking around a campfire keeping everyone awake.
5:the mayhem family, wild kid's running amok kicking ball's into others stuff whilst mum and dad get shit faced on cheap cider and White wine. Usually with a noisy dog.
6: rambler's who are only there for the night and gone before dawn.
Now as a campsite owner which users are you aiming to attract?
Camping has been ruined for us since lockdown, the "staycation" has attracted people who usually spend their summer holidays in magaluf getting wankered on the all inclusive drinks and shouting "OI OI" at the top of their voice at every opportunity.
My point is rules.
You either have them or you don't.
If you do, enforce them and allow everyone to enjoy the countryside not just one or two.
Or have no rules and make it known so people can choose to stay or not given their own personal needs."
Thank you for the input. We are getting a great deal of feed back regards rules.
Getting the balance is going to be tricky hence the offer of free camping on the 14/15 september to hopefully get a few enthusiasts together to go over such things and help us be ready for when we open next year. |
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Certainly sounds like a great idea but as a lot of people have said it's going to need more facilities to really take off. How many campers motorhomes tent's would you be looking to cater for at any one time ? |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"Certainly sounds like a great idea but as a lot of people have said it's going to need more facilities to really take off. How many campers motorhomes tent's would you be looking to cater for at any one time ?"
Yes of course there will be more facilities. Toilets showers kitchen sauna hot tub indoor area when it is up and running. So all campers will be catered. for
This september is just a little free get together to help with the planning. |
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By *nd-DCouple
over a year ago
portsmouth |
"Certainly sounds like a great idea but as a lot of people have said it's going to need more facilities to really take off. How many campers motorhomes tent's would you be looking to cater for at any one time ?
Yes of course there will be more facilities. Toilets showers kitchen sauna hot tub indoor area when it is up and running. So all campers will be catered. for
This september is just a little free get together to help with the planning."
Do you have many coming to your get together ?. I hope you get a lot of interest and some good ideas put forward.
Looking forward to trying it out next year. |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"Certainly sounds like a great idea but as a lot of people have said it's going to need more facilities to really take off. How many campers motorhomes tent's would you be looking to cater for at any one time ?
Yes of course there will be more facilities. Toilets showers kitchen sauna hot tub indoor area when it is up and running. So all campers will be catered. for
This september is just a little free get together to help with the planning.
Do you have many coming to your get together ?. I hope you get a lot of interest and some good ideas put forward.
Looking forward to trying it out next year. "
We a few couples coming but would live it if more could come. |
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
Suffolk - East Anglia |
"Camping now seems to be divided into clear groups.
1: considerate campers who follow site rules and respect other people.
2: middle class yobs who turn up with brand new everything take over and don't give two craps about noise,mess and the country code.
3:caravaners who turn up who have no interest in socialising,spend hours setting up then shut the door and go and watch TV sitting on the couch.
4: free spirits who are nice and friendly usually in a very small two person tent but like to sit around until the early hours talking around a campfire keeping everyone awake.
5:the mayhem family, wild kid's running amok kicking ball's into others stuff whilst mum and dad get shit faced on cheap cider and White wine. Usually with a noisy dog.
6: rambler's who are only there for the night and gone before dawn.
Now as a campsite owner which users are you aiming to attract?
Camping has been ruined for us since lockdown, the "staycation" has attracted people who usually spend their summer holidays in magaluf getting wankered on the all inclusive drinks and shouting "OI OI" at the top of their voice at every opportunity.
My point is rules.
You either have them or you don't.
If you do, enforce them and allow everyone to enjoy the countryside not just one or two.
Or have no rules and make it known so people can choose to stay or not given their own personal needs.
Thank you for the input. We are getting a great deal of feed back regards rules.
Getting the balance is going to be tricky hence the offer of free camping on the 14/15 september to hopefully get a few enthusiasts together to go over such things and help us be ready for when we open next year."
Hi.
If your new camp has electric hook-up, over 18 policy and naturist, we'll be visiting very often |
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Might be worth taking up camping again. Unfortunately, working on those dates. It has promise and your profile does indicate your target customers. Keep us posted. Nothing like a bit of “Carry On Camping” antics. We wonder who you could be ??? |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"Are you thinking of setting up as a general campsite, or as a specific naturist place?"
Simple answer do not know.
We are not sure if there would be enough take up to run it full time as a specific naturist site.
At present our thoughts are leaning towards specific weeks/weekends for adults only.
This is what the weekend of the 15/16 is about finding out what people want whilst having a great time meeting new people.
Is the location alright
What facilities are needed/desired
How to lay the site out
Glamping units
Are dogs welcombe
Day pass
Clothed or un clothed
Single men
Fires/bbq
Frequency of use
Etc etc
From the first day the site opens we want all our guest to have an amazing time and not want to leave.
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"Might be worth taking up camping again. Unfortunately, working on those dates. It has promise and your profile does indicate your target customers. Keep us posted. Nothing like a bit of “Carry On Camping” antics. We wonder who you could be ??? "
??. Thanks |
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
Suffolk - East Anglia |
"Are you thinking of setting up as a general campsite, or as a specific naturist place?
Simple answer do not know.
We are not sure if there would be enough take up to run it full time as a specific naturist site.
At present our thoughts are leaning towards specific weeks/weekends for adults only.
This is what the weekend of the 15/16 is about finding out what people want whilst having a great time meeting new people.
Is the location alright
What facilities are needed/desired
How to lay the site out
Glamping units
Are dogs welcombe
Day pass
Clothed or un clothed
Single men
Fires/bbq
Frequency of use
Etc etc
From the first day the site opens we want all our guest to have an amazing time and not want to leave.
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With regard to your concern about take-up if it was a naturist site, our opinion is that with the shortage of naturist sites in the south of England and those that already exist being usually full, that a new naturist or clothing optional site would be very popular. There are caravan/camping sites everywhere but there is a huge gap in the market for more clothing optional places.
Electric hook-ups though are a must.
Good luck in your venture. |
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Ive camped all over europe and the uk on campsites and on top of mountains and in fields the uk sites vary big time grimond campsite near st tropez seams to have got it just right friendly good facilities and all nations kind of magical where you camp and little lantern lights some good places in uk wasteater in lakes ambleside north devon bala in wales |
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"Camping now seems to be divided into clear groups.
1: considerate campers who follow site rules and respect other people.
2: middle class yobs who turn up with brand new everything take over and don't give two craps about noise,mess and the country code.
3:caravaners who turn up who have no interest in socialising,spend hours setting up then shut the door and go and watch TV sitting on the couch.
4: free spirits who are nice and friendly usually in a very small two person tent but like to sit around until the early hours talking around a campfire keeping everyone awake.
5:the mayhem family, wild kid's running amok kicking ball's into others stuff whilst mum and dad get shit faced on cheap cider and White wine. Usually with a noisy dog.
6: rambler's who are only there for the night and gone before dawn.
Now as a campsite owner which users are you aiming to attract?
Camping has been ruined for us since lockdown, the "staycation" has attracted people who usually spend their summer holidays in magaluf getting wankered on the all inclusive drinks and shouting "OI OI" at the top of their voice at every opportunity.
My point is rules.
You either have them or you don't.
If you do, enforce them and allow everyone to enjoy the countryside not just one or two.
Or have no rules and make it known so people can choose to stay or not given their own personal needs.
Thank you for the input. We are getting a great deal of feed back regards rules.
Getting the balance is going to be tricky hence the offer of free camping on the 14/15 september to hopefully get a few enthusiasts together to go over such things and help us be ready for when we open next year.
Hi.
If your new camp has electric hook-up, over 18 policy and naturist, we'll be visiting very often "
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could be worth looking into a couple of portaloos to hire i think most people would rather have the option especially if in tents and although we have a self contained set up and can go off grid with no facilities we need to empty ours every other day. |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"could be worth looking into a couple of portaloos to hire i think most people would rather have the option especially if in tents and although we have a self contained set up and can go off grid with no facilities we need to empty ours every other day."
For the weekend of the 15/16 we are now hiring a portaloo and marque as we have had more interest then expected. Next year there will be purpose built toilets and showers etc for when we open |
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Fantastic idea, we would be very interested when your set up as we only have a campervan so would need electric and toilets/shower block
Look forward to you opening fully, especially if you will host swingers weekend etc. |
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By *Xtriple7Couple
over a year ago
N Peterborough. |
The title of this thread, whenever I see it, makes me think its to do with a camping site battle.
A three way gladiatorial clash between campers, motorhomers and caravanners. Mallet vs wheel chocks, storming the windbreakers etc.
Anyway, apologies for the digression.
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Guess I fall into group 1 (and 6 if I’m out on my own)
"Camping now seems to be divided into clear groups.
1: considerate campers who follow site rules and respect other people.
2: middle class yobs who turn up with brand new everything take over and don't give two craps about noise,mess and the country code.
3:caravaners who turn up who have no interest in socialising,spend hours setting up then shut the door and go and watch TV sitting on the couch.
4: free spirits who are nice and friendly usually in a very small two person tent but like to sit around until the early hours talking around a campfire keeping everyone awake.
5:the mayhem family, wild kid's running amok kicking ball's into others stuff whilst mum and dad get shit faced on cheap cider and White wine. Usually with a noisy dog.
6: rambler's who are only there for the night and gone before dawn.
Now as a campsite owner which users are you aiming to attract?
Camping has been ruined for us since lockdown, the "staycation" has attracted people who usually spend their summer holidays in magaluf getting wankered on the all inclusive drinks and shouting "OI OI" at the top of their voice at every opportunity.
My point is rules.
You either have them or you don't.
If you do, enforce them and allow everyone to enjoy the countryside not just one or two.
Or have no rules and make it known so people can choose to stay or not given their own personal needs."
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We'd like to but unfortunately we cannot attend that weekend. Is your site suitable for campervans/motorhomes as well as tents, or are you looking to make it so.
We wouldn't need an electric hook up |
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We have a small/medium size dog (Spaniel cross) and no one at home to leave him with. So when we are away he naturally comes with us.
If you have an area for pet owners and make it a rule that they have to control their pets and you install a dog poo bin, then you will attract more customers who cannot go to other sites where pets are not allowed.
There are a lot of couples who are in our position who want to attend places like your one but cannot due to the pet rule. Making it pet friendly would a definite bonus |
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By *urge72Man
over a year ago
oxfordshire & Hull |
"We have a small/medium size dog (Spaniel cross) and no one at home to leave him with. So when we are away he naturally comes with us.
If you have an area for pet owners and make it a rule that they have to control their pets and you install a dog poo bin, then you will attract more customers who cannot go to other sites where pets are not allowed.
There are a lot of couples who are in our position who want to attend places like your one but cannot due to the pet rule. Making it pet friendly would a definite bonus "
I've been to a site a couple of times where dogs have been permitted and there were no problems whatsoever.
Owners were very responsible and even the guy who had a massive scary looking dog exercised it with a muzzle and on a leash away from everyone. I agree with the above permitting dogs, but with sensible rules in place, will open up your potential customer base. |
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By *nd-DCouple
over a year ago
portsmouth |
"From the feed back we are getting it will be very swinging friendly.
Will know more after next weekends meet up after chatting in depth with the people coming "
How many have you got coming ?
Unfortunately we can’t make it this time. |
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By *amwalket OP Couple
over a year ago
Hastings |
"From the feed back we are getting it will be very swinging friendly.
Will know more after next weekends meet up after chatting in depth with the people coming
How many have you got coming ?
Unfortunately we can’t make it this time. "
We have had 16 couples and 4 singles say they are joining us for the weekend. We are super excited and a little nervous! Still room for a few more. |
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If we didn’t have family plans this weekend we would love to come on saying that it would be great for a campsite in the southeast for the lifestyle so hopefully all works well on your maiden weekend and hopefully we’ll be able to visit in the not too distant future |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I enjoy camping, been to quite a few campsite. I'm also in the construction industry so if you need and help planning toilets/shower block etc I'd be happy to help |
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We can't come unfortunately but I'd love to offer my opinion anyway.
Campsites we've been (tent) tend to be around the £25pn price. I'd gladly pay 4 times for the right place. We only camp weekends, usually one night only. It's just a get away from the kids for us.
So for me, I want, a field that's level so I don't slide off my bed
No kids
A fire
Be able to sit round said fire in my underkeks
A £100 for a patch of grass for a few hours is expensive, so you'd need a value added incentive to charge anywhere near that. A hot tub, a bar, dancing girls maybe
I guess it's hard to differentiate between offering a standard campsite, or offering something off track. Probably depends on your work ethic, reliance for the income, versus your choice of lifestyle.
I would LOVE to run an adults only campsite, but I imagine it would be far more labour intensive than just opening a gate for the usual campsite customers.
But, and here's the kicker, if you jumped tits or balls deep in setting up, marketing, and maintaining, an adults only site, I would imagine the medium to long term business plan would be easier than the short term vanilla site.
A normal site is easy, but you're competing with everyone else everywhere. You may struggle to get the repeat business as you have nothing more or less than the others
An adults site, provided there's nothing off putting, almost guarantees repeat business as you are the only one in xyz miles catchment area |
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